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Post by SFP on Sept 17, 2010 13:44:46 GMT -5
Wow John, you really need to loosten your shorts a bit and take a breath. I resent your implication regarding all NCG people - only some of us qualify for you all encompassing label. No sal! THIS IS WHERE YOU ARE ABSOLUTLY WRONG. When you join their group and even speak for them you do represent ALL of whatt hey stand for. You cant go and join Osama Biladen because you dont agree with the war in Iraq and then say youre not a terrorist. Let me see - Nope I DISAGREE - AND YOU ARE WRONG. Ok, now what - we'll never agree. Big whoop. But you keep trying to paint all of us against the casino with the same brush and it just doesn't work, because we all have different reasons for not wanting it. Same as the Pro side - you think everyone for the casino is for it for the same reasons? That would be amazing. If so, don't drink any kool-aid if a guy named Jim Jones offers it. Just sayin.....
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 17, 2010 14:18:07 GMT -5
Linda, we've discussed this before and its sad to see someone trying to give you crap for speaking you piece, even if I don't agree with your point of view, you have the right to push for it, as we all do. Is unfortunate when the issue becomes attacking the messenger as compared to dealing with the message - no matter what side it comes from. sfp, does anyone understand that both the postings by SES and new to this game were personal attacks toward me? Many people on both sides have written LTE but I have never seen this much focus from either side toward one individual until this happened to me. There has been sniping back and forth but nothing to this extent. We are even receiving hang up calls from blocked numbers at my home. Can anyone comprehend what this does to an 84 year old woman who was close to death (without a pulse on one occasion) and a CCU patient twice in August? SES outed me which was obviously intentional and malicious and then new to this game maligned me with the apparent intention of causing me to lose my job. I have done nothing to warrant these attacks except, apparently, anger (enrage) some NCG member(s) who knows me and wants to discredit me. I may not be a person loved by everyone but I never go out of my way to hurt people and I can't understand the magnitude of the hate that someone evidently feels toward me. So, don't defend NCG or anyone else in this instance. I wrote a letter, a simple letter describing opportunities for family entertainment at the proposed casino. I did not malign anyone by organization or individual name. What has been done to me and my mother is unconscionable and I am thoroughly disgusted whenever I hear anyone defending NCG for their tactics. This treatment was completely unwarranted and undeserved. By the way, since new to this game is an avid "fan" of mine I would like to state that I was not "planning" a party at Sharpshooters. That would indicate that I intend to subsidize the cost of the gathering. Nothing could be farther from the truth. As far as my language on BV goes, if it offends you, don't read it. Having expressed my feelings - clearly I hope - if I had known what was going to happen to me when I wrote the letter; I would have written two. This is the United States of America. This is not Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan, et al. We are supposed to have freedom of speech in this country. I guess that Adams County is exempt. I was on my break when I wrote this for anyone concerned about my wasting time at work.
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 17, 2010 14:50:09 GMT -5
No sal! THIS IS WHERE YOU ARE ABSOLUTLY WRONG. When you join their group and even speak for them you do represent ALL of whatt hey stand for. You cant go and join Osama Biladen because you dont agree with the war in Iraq and then say youre not a terrorist. Let me see - Nope I DISAGREE - AND YOU ARE WRONG. Ok, now what - we'll never agree. Big whoop. But you keep trying to paint all of us against the casino with the same brush and it just doesn't work, because we all have different reasons for not wanting it. Same as the Pro side - you think everyone for the casino is for it for the same reasons? That would be amazing. If so, don't drink any kool-aid if a guy named Jim Jones offers it. Just sayin..... You can rationalize however you want sal but as others here have told you. You speak for them, you represnt them publicly that makes you what they are and in agreement with them. Mo matter how much you want to deny that it's how we all see you. You also think turning a blind a eye on some of the stuff they do and say excludes you or makes you not quilty of it but it doesnt as long as youre apart of their organization and or speaking for/representing them.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 17, 2010 15:04:08 GMT -5
IT WAS FREAKING GRAPE FLAVORED FLAVOR AID NOT KOOL-AID AND IT WAS LACED WITH CYANIDE AND A SEDATIVE.
DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID IS NOT A CLEVER RETORT.
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Post by johngalt on Sept 17, 2010 15:58:29 GMT -5
Exactly SpellChecker!
'A' is 'A'... you can't have your cake and eat it to.
If you're No Casino and against a citizens private constitutional rights then you are absolutely anti-freedom - as a group - in its entirety. SFP does not resent my implication; he resents the irrefutable logic which exposes those who are anti-freedom. Bottom line is he opposes the constitutional freedom to develop private land outside the battlefield. 'A' is 'A'.
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Post by Venter on Sept 17, 2010 16:44:18 GMT -5
IT WAS FREAKING GRAPE FLAVORED FLAVOR AID NOT KOOL-AID AND IT WAS LACED WITH CYANIDE AND A SEDATIVE. DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID IS NOT A CLEVER RETORT. Yeah Townie, but it's much easier for us to say Kool-Aid. Do you want a 1" Sterile Self-Adhesive Plastic Bandage, or do you want a Band-Aid? Would you prefer a WalMart Brand Facial Tissue, or would you like a Kleenex?
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 17, 2010 17:05:00 GMT -5
Exactly SpellChecker! 'A' is 'A'... you can't have your cake and eat it to. If you're No Casino and against a citizens private constitutional rights then you are absolutely anti-freedom - as a group - in its entirety. SFP does not resent my implication; he resents the irrefutable logic which exposes those who are anti-freedom. Bottom line is he opposes the constitutional freedom to develop private land outside the battlefield. 'A' is 'A'. And Sal, I agree with SpellChecker and John. I'll paint the entire lot of you with the same brush. To hell with all of you.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 17, 2010 17:06:57 GMT -5
IT WAS FREAKING GRAPE FLAVORED FLAVOR AID NOT KOOL-AID AND IT WAS LACED WITH CYANIDE AND A SEDATIVE. DON'T DRINK THE KOOL-AID IS NOT A CLEVER RETORT. Yeah Townie, but it's much easier for us to say Kool-Aid. Do you want a 1" Sterile Self-Adhesive Plastic Bandage, or do you want a Band-Aid? Would you prefer a WalMart Brand Facial Tissue, or would you like a Kleenex? What I want is a rag covered pole, a bucket of hot tar and matches. Feathers would be nice too. And of course a rail to ride all of the SOB's out of town on. K? May not be grammatically correct but WTF.
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Post by SFP on Sept 17, 2010 20:07:29 GMT -5
Exactly SpellChecker! 'A' is 'A'... you can't have your cake and eat it to. If you're No Casino and against a citizens private constitutional rights then you are absolutely anti-freedom - as a group - in its entirety. SFP does not resent my implication; he resents the irrefutable logic which exposes those who are anti-freedom. Bottom line is he opposes the constitutional freedom to develop private land outside the battlefield. 'A' is 'A'. And Sal, I agree with SpellChecker and John. I'll paint the entire lot of you with the same brush. To hell with all of you. Sorry you feel that way Linda. I understand why, and as I said, nobody should be going after people on a personal level because of the position they take on the casino or any other issue. Unfortunately, not everyone plays by the same rules.
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 17, 2010 20:43:28 GMT -5
And Sal, I agree with SpellChecker and John. I'll paint the entire lot of you with the same brush. To hell with all of you. Sorry you feel that way Linda. I understand why, and as I said, nobody should be going after people on a personal level because of the position they take on the casino or any other issue. Unfortunately, not everyone plays by the same rules. who in this isn't playing dirty sal? Including yourself? All of the holly than thou stuff with you really gets old gimme a break and stop trying to pretend to be peoples friend. If you really care why didn't you say something to ses in the forum? You made sure to run into the topix forum this am and make posts trying to prove rich kitner wrong.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 17, 2010 21:28:44 GMT -5
Sorry you feel that way Linda. I understand why, and as I said, nobody should be going after people on a personal level because of the position they take on the casino or any other issue. Unfortunately, not everyone plays by the same rules. who in this isn't playing dirty sal? Including yourself? All of the holly than thou stuff with you really gets old gimme a break and stop trying to pretend to be peoples friend. If you really care why didn't you say something to ses in the forum? You made sure to run into the topix forum this am and make posts trying to prove rich kitner wrong. What SpellChecker said Sal. You would have broken your blood oath to Susan and her minions if you had spoken up and said that what was done to me was wrong. You probably would have been made to turn in your No Casino button. I'm getting sick of this subject now but I also have to live with the fact that your lurker cronies are watching me. Who would have thought that I, a lowly townie, would acquire lurkers and stalkers? "Fame" that I didn't need.
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Post by SFP on Sept 18, 2010 0:08:07 GMT -5
Let me say a couple of things and I'll leave it at that. First I saw of Linda's issue was here - so my comments have been here. Normally, I don't even look at the forum, its the same old same old after whatever letter is published and I save my energy for other things.
The only recent time I've bothered to post on the forum was in response to Kitner's letter about casinos in Normandy, but I saw that here first and then went on the forum to correct what I consider an error. The impression he left was not realistic to the facts on casinos being close to the Normandy beach landing areas.
I've said before that I get on this to post at different times according to my own schedule, not caring about anyone elses or how thats perceived. Thats not changing.
I think that what happened with Linda is not right, and I spoke to it here. That being said, neither is what happened with Violet and people going after her and her job. I haven't seen any apologies from anyone here about people going after her with postings, videos, phone calls etc. Given the "don't eat the coleslaw" remarks, you surprised something like this could happen to someone over here?
I've put up with some interesting comments from some of the people who know me, that I'm on this site, and see all of the crap some of you spew out on a personal level to NCG people, so your remarks about my seeming lack of concern are taken in context, but don't concern or impress me.
So while your getting all puffy Ron about me and my business, take a look at yourself and tell me how going after Violet or SSP is any different than someone who has taken a poke at Linda.
I'm not saying any of it is right, but the self indulgent indignation on your part is really interesting.
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Post by lifesaver on Sept 18, 2010 8:51:38 GMT -5
Sal, self indulgent indignation? You really don't know Townie very well, do you? ?? And you really can't see the difference between what happened to Townie and Violet and SSP? Well, SFP, around these parts we don't take too kindly to liars and cheats, or people who try to tell us what is best for us.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 18, 2010 10:50:55 GMT -5
Sal, self indulgent indignation? You really don't know Townie very well, do you? ?? And you really can't see the difference between what happened to Townie and Violet and SSP? Well, SFP, around these parts we don't take too kindly to liars and cheats, or people who try to tell us what is best for us. Sal, Violet and SSP are public figures by way of their careers and their websites and by their putting themselves in the public eye at every turn. I repeat - yet again - I wrote a letter. And, I stood when my name was called at the hearing. I am not a public figure but I have been targeted by your kind. What is curious to me is - why me? I'm no one important, I have no standing in the community, I have no influence whatsoever in any arena. So, why me? Perhaps because the women saw someone who they could victimize. The line has been crossed and there's no going back. However, from here on out, Sal, your friends can say and do what they like. I can't control the actions of your friends but I can control my reactions. For the record, I'm proud to be a part of BoroughVENT, I'm a proud member of Pro Casino Adams County and I am proud of myself for attending the hearing and standing when Gene spoke on my behalf and on behalf of 34 (?) others who yielded their three minutes of "fame" in order to shorten the wait time for other attendees. Something the No Casino members didn't have the class to do because they wanted the limelight. "Self indulgent indignation" hurts Sal. Someone I care about recently told me that I have an ego problem. You don't know me, nor does he.
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 18, 2010 11:01:28 GMT -5
Let me say a couple of things and I'll leave it at that. First I saw of Linda's issue was here - so my comments have been here. Normally, I don't even look at the forum, its the same old same old after whatever letter is published and I save my energy for other things. The only recent time I've bothered to post on the forum was in response to Kitner's letter about casinos in Normandy, but I saw that here first and then went on the forum to correct what I consider an error. The impression he left was not realistic to the facts on casinos being close to the Normandy beach landing areas. I've said before that I get on this to post at different times according to my own schedule, not caring about anyone elses or how thats perceived. Thats not changing. I think that what happened with Linda is not right, and I spoke to it here. That being said, neither is what happened with Violet and people going after her and her job. I haven't seen any apologies from anyone here about people going after her with postings, videos, phone calls etc. Given the "don't eat the coleslaw" remarks, you surprised something like this could happen to someone over here? I've put up with some interesting comments from some of the people who know me, that I'm on this site, and see all of the crap some of you spew out on a personal level to NCG people, so your remarks about my seeming lack of concern are taken in context, but don't concern or impress me. So while your getting all puffy Ron about me and my business, take a look at yourself and tell me how going after Violet or SSP is any different than someone who has taken a poke at Linda. I'm not saying any of it is right, but the self indulgent indignation on your part is really interesting. When someone from out of state comes here and tries to take money out of my poket and acts very rude towards everyone here your dam right I'm going to fire back. I never called her job and tried to get her fired. While there were heated debates and sometimes harsh words there were lines I didn't cross. Lets face it Violet isn't the easiest person to get along with and this casino debate isn't the first place her demeaner has caused peolpe to lash out at her.
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Post by SFP on Sept 18, 2010 14:29:07 GMT -5
Sal, self indulgent indignation? You really don't know Townie very well, do you? ?? And you really can't see the difference between what happened to Townie and Violet and SSP? Well, SFP, around these parts we don't take too kindly to liars and cheats, or people who try to tell us what is best for us. Sal, Violet and SSP are public figures by way of their careers and their websites and by their putting themselves in the public eye at every turn. I repeat - yet again - I wrote a letter. And, I stood when my name was called at the hearing. I am not a public figure but I have been targeted by your kind. What is curious to me is - why me? I'm no one important, I have no standing in the community, I have no influence whatsoever in any arena. So, why me? Perhaps because the women saw someone who they could victimize. The line has been crossed and there's no going back. However, from here on out, Sal, your friends can say and do what they like. I can't control the actions of your friends but I can control my reactions. For the record, I'm proud to be a part of BoroughVENT, I'm a proud member of Pro Casino Adams County and I am proud of myself for attending the hearing and standing when Gene spoke on my behalf and on behalf of 34 (?) others who yielded their three minutes of "fame" in order to shorten the wait time for other attendees. Something the No Casino members didn't have the class to do because they wanted the limelight. "Self indulgent indignation" hurts Sal. Someone I care about recently told me that I have an ego problem. You don't know me, nor does he. Lifesaver and Linda - go back and read my post. I thought it was pretty clear that I was responding and referring to Ron, not to Linda. "So while your getting all puffy Ron about me and my business, take a look at yourself and tell me how going after Violet or SSP is any different than someone who has taken a poke at Linda. I'm not saying any of it is right, but the self indulgent indignation on your part is really interesting. " If its not clear - then I'm telling you I was responding to him.
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 18, 2010 14:42:23 GMT -5
I see Sal has completed his NCG course work in How to Lose Friends and Alienate People 101.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 18, 2010 14:55:53 GMT -5
I see Sal has completed his NCG course work in How to Lose Friends and Alienate People 101. Absolutely, Rainier. Because the telling statement is the one Sal quoted which was "So while your getting all puffy Ron about me and my business, take a look at yourself and tell me how going after Violet or SSP is any different than someone who has taken a poke at Linda." Pardon my stupidity but that sentence essentially says that if someone could go after Violet or SSP then it was fair game to go after me. Again, I am not a public figure, I do not have my own website, I do not exploit myself for financial gain, I am not a publicity whore, I don't have any degrees (rejection doesn't count, does it), I haven't written any books, I don't counsel lost souls. So, why was a no nothing like me selected to be the NCG goat? If I'm that important I'd like to reap some of the benefits soon. Sal can go to the head of the NCG class on How to Lose Friends and Alienate People 101 and I know someone else who can join him.
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Post by SFP on Sept 18, 2010 15:25:31 GMT -5
I see Sal has completed his NCG course work in How to Lose Friends and Alienate People 101. Absolutely, Rainier. Because the telling statement is the one Sal quoted which was "So while your getting all puffy Ron about me and my business, take a look at yourself and tell me how going after Violet or SSP is any different than someone who has taken a poke at Linda." Pardon my stupidity but that sentence essentially says that if someone could go after Violet or SSP then it was fair game to go after me. Again, I am not a public figure, I do not have my own website, I do not exploit myself for financial gain, I am not a publicity whore, I don't have any degrees (rejection doesn't count, does it), I haven't written any books, I don't counsel lost souls. So, why was a no nothing like me selected to be the NCG goat? If I'm that important I'd like to reap some of the benefits soon. Sal can go to the head of the NCG class on How to Lose Friends and Alienate People 101 and I know someone else who can join him. What I'm saying is that its not right, but its not surprising that its happening. This thing has taken a life of its own to the point where prople are losing any sense of perspective and civility. Linda happens to be the one someone went after here, just as people are going after some on the NCG side. Again, I'm not saying its right, its just what going on. Look back at the tone this debate has taken since it first started months ago - its not good. People on both sides are getting more and more intense on this to the point of it poisoning any chance for rational discussion. Same is true on the forums. Thats why I generally don't bother with the forums and I take time out now and again to get away from posting here - its not even healthy. I don't think its just me, I think a lot of people are tired of the pure hate and vile being tossed around by everyone. And I'll venture its going to get worse unless people stop to do a reality check and turn the temperature down. Look at the forums, its mostly the same few people caught up in the malestrom of this debate with the same information and accusations - personal and otherwise. Most people don't really have the constituion to take that kind of abuse even if they are hiding behind a screen name, so people just don't participate. I'll offer that the same thing is happening here. Since the cut over to the new site, there are now 20 members and 95 guests. There were 600 members before. Granted, some people quit or moved or whatever, but doesn't that tell you something about how people may feel about the tone of things? I'm only speaking for myself, but Gene must look at the numbers and have some thoughts. I'm not saying that to be ctitical, but just pointing out that the atmosphere here is not for the faint of heart. I don't think I've ever shown you any disrespect in the past Linda, and I never intended to do so now. I know you're upset, and you have a right to be. You can take my comments and accept them or not at this point.
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Post by Venter on Sept 18, 2010 17:25:28 GMT -5
Not to go too far off-topic, but SFP, you said, "Look at the forums, its mostly the same few people caught up in the maelstrom of this debate with the same information and accusations - personal and otherwise. Most people don't really have the constitution to take that kind of abuse even if they are hiding behind a screen name, so people just don't participate.
I'll offer that the same thing is happening here.
Since the cut over to the new site, there are now 20 members and 95 guests. There were 600 members before. Granted, some people quit or moved or whatever, but doesn't that tell you something about how people may feel about the tone of things?
I'm only speaking for myself, but Gene must look at the numbers and have some thoughts. I'm not saying that to be critical, but just pointing out that the atmosphere here is not for the faint of heart."SFP, You are looking at, and quoting the wrong stats... (Must be an NCG thing ) As of this moment, we have 72 Members registered. You need to look at the Forum Statistics, at the number on the right. You quoted the Active Users in the Past 24 Hours, which changes often. Actually, I'm surprised as SHIT that we have that many Members at this early point in the change-over. It took 3.5 years to attain 600 Members. (I've also cleaned house a couple of times - our newest Member on the old site is actually #655) Some come and go, some have a couple names, some are Registered Members, yet they don't sign in all the time, so we don't actually see when they visit. You only need to sign in when you want to Post. Unlike SOME Forums, you only need to register ONCE, because we don't make a habit of banning people, or removing posts!NCG would probably only have about "100 Members" if all of the ProCasino people hadn't had to register two dozen times EACH By the way, SFP, any time you care to use your real name here, I can change that for you, so you won't be posting "anonymously"
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 18, 2010 18:24:21 GMT -5
It's actually quite a shame really. I had a lot of respect for the guy when he first started posting here. I gave him a lot of credit for even logging onto this site considering it's most definitely a majority Pro board. Since then though his balls have shrunken to the point that he's now reduced himself to the status of NCG apologist and that I have no respect for. Call a spade a spade and be true to yourself. It seems Sal is more concerned that admitting wrong under any circumstances would hurt the NCG cause and he's not willing to do that. It's like they adopted Reagan's 11th commandment "Thou shall not speak ill of any fellow Republican" except replace Republican with NCG member. They're like some freako cult at this point. I can honestly say I haven't done or said anything in this debate I'm ashamed of and there's not a single thing I would do differently. I'm not sure there's a whole lot of NCG people who can say the same and sadly I think Sal has decided to take that route.
You made you bed Sal, now you have to lay in it. Sleep well sweet prince.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 18, 2010 18:43:02 GMT -5
It's actually quite a shame really. I had a lot of respect for the guy when he first started posting here. I gave him a lot of credit for even logging onto this site considering it's most definitely a majority Pro board. Since then though his balls have shrunken to the point that he's now reduced himself to the status of NCG apologist and that I have no respect for. Call a spade a spade and be true to yourself. It seems Sal is more concerned that admitting wrong under any circumstances would hurt the NCG cause and he's not willing to do that. It's like they adopted Reagan's 11th commandment "Thou shall not speak ill of any fellow Republican" except replace Republican with NCG member. They're like some freako cult at this point. I can honestly say I haven't done or said anything in this debate I'm ashamed of and there's not a single thing I would do differently. I'm not sure there's a whole lot of NCG people who can say the same and sadly I think Sal has decided to take that route. Sleep well sweet prince. And he still doesn't get it. Why not someone whose name is well known in Gettysburg and the press? Why me? Because those people do their research and knew that I was (key word WAS) a vulnerable target. And flights of angels sing thee to thy rest.
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Post by SFP on Sept 18, 2010 22:50:26 GMT -5
It's actually quite a shame really. I had a lot of respect for the guy when he first started posting here. I gave him a lot of credit for even logging onto this site considering it's most definitely a majority Pro board. Since then though his balls have shrunken to the point that he's now reduced himself to the status of NCG apologist and that I have no respect for. Call a spade a spade and be true to yourself. It seems Sal is more concerned that admitting wrong under any circumstances would hurt the NCG cause and he's not willing to do that. It's like they adopted Reagan's 11th commandment "Thou shall not speak ill of any fellow Republican" except replace Republican with NCG member. They're like some freako cult at this point. I can honestly say I haven't done or said anything in this debate I'm ashamed of and there's not a single thing I would do differently. I'm not sure there's a whole lot of NCG people who can say the same and sadly I think Sal has decided to take that route. You made you bed Sal, now you have to lay in it. Sleep well sweet prince. I sleep quite well thank you and really don't worry about getting a "by your leave" from you to do it. At the end of the day, this is just a side show - the real balls to the wall come when the PGCB makes their decision. If its Gettysburg, so be it, but if its not - what are you going to do?
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 19, 2010 10:47:02 GMT -5
It's actually quite a shame really. I had a lot of respect for the guy when he first started posting here. I gave him a lot of credit for even logging onto this site considering it's most definitely a majority Pro board. Since then though his balls have shrunken to the point that he's now reduced himself to the status of NCG apologist and that I have no respect for. Call a spade a spade and be true to yourself. It seems Sal is more concerned that admitting wrong under any circumstances would hurt the NCG cause and he's not willing to do that. It's like they adopted Reagan's 11th commandment "Thou shall not speak ill of any fellow Republican" except replace Republican with NCG member. They're like some freako cult at this point. I can honestly say I haven't done or said anything in this debate I'm ashamed of and there's not a single thing I would do differently. I'm not sure there's a whole lot of NCG people who can say the same and sadly I think Sal has decided to take that route. You made you bed Sal, now you have to lay in it. Sleep well sweet prince. I sleep quite well thank you and really don't worry about getting a "by your leave" from you to do it. At the end of the day, this is just a side show - the real balls to the wall come when the PGCB makes their decision. If its Gettysburg, so be it, but if its not - what are you going to do? Actually we'll all be just fine on the Pro side. What do you think your side will do if the license comes? If you haven't seen your pals true colors through your blinders yet you will surely see unparalleled vitriol from them when Gettysburg gets a license. I'm most curious to see just how scummy your buddies have to get before even you take exception.
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Post by MattC on Sept 19, 2010 12:01:28 GMT -5
No sal! THIS IS WHERE YOU ARE ABSOLUTLY WRONG. When you join their group and even speak for them you do represent ALL of whatt hey stand for. You cant go and join Osama Biladen because you dont agree with the war in Iraq and then say youre not a terrorist. Let me see - Nope I DISAGREE - AND YOU ARE WRONG. Ok, now what - we'll never agree. Big whoop. But you keep trying to paint all of us against the casino with the same brush and it just doesn't work, because we all have different reasons for not wanting it. Same as the Pro side - you think everyone for the casino is for it for the same reasons? That would be amazing. If so, don't drink any kool-aid if a guy named Jim Jones offers it. Just sayin..... Sal, NCG paints you with the same brush. People don't take the time to differentiate between what the leaders of a group say and what the members of the group think. It's true, you may all be against the casino for varying reason (though I didn't hear many at the hearing); but is Joe Schmoe on the street, when he sees your no casino button/shirt/bumper sticker and say, "well, maybe that guy isn't a total flaming douche like Susan, Dan, Jim and Violet"? No. Those people are the public face of the group. Their words are taken as what the whole group thinks. THEY cause people to think ill of the lot of you.
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