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Post by poindexter on Oct 12, 2011 12:08:04 GMT -5
Oh, so that's it then? The conspiracy theorist card? You disappoint me Poindexter. How is your dismissal of me any different than what you just chided americaneagle for doing in the occupy Wall St. thread? You made the statement that his labelling of people who don't agree with him as commies, Nazis, and socialists adds nothing to the conversation (I agree by the way) yet here you are trying to label and dismiss me in a similar fashion. A bit hypocritical don't you think? Even more disappointing than your hypocrisy though is that your comments show that we may have come to the end of your intellectual capabilities, and it didn't even take that long. Is that really all you have left in your arsenal? Condescending dismissal by way of an ad hominem attack. Your attempt to link me in a negative way to the subjects you listed may be a logical fallacy, but it's a fallacy none the less. I'm disappointed. Sorry you took my post as an offense RW. It was not intended as such. Just a poke (thus the emoticon and reference to the Essence). I'm not sure why you feel I've reached my intellectual limit. I've tried to engage you on several topics and even started a few myself in hopes of having a dialog that included more than just name calling. I don't intend to stop trying either. Surely your skin is thicker than this... |
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Post by HoneyBadger on Oct 12, 2011 15:03:51 GMT -5
A sense of humor is apparently lacking among certain members of Boro Vent. Or their skin is unusually thin. Any regular visitor should know the water by now.  As for AE, I expect nothing else. His views showed through in his work @ The Times. In an unfettered environment such as BV he can more fully display his sympathies. Sometimes this place is nothing but one big cat fight. I've lost track of the players but you and spitz and Poindexter still have a sense of humor. Perhaps I could beg Mr. Dana to come back and promise him that I won't even say shoot. No fun no more.  |
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Post by fatsam on Oct 12, 2011 16:05:50 GMT -5
Been reading a long time as a guest. I like these topics and I know my first post is probably going to ruffle some feathers. Maybe since I don't know any of the parties involved I'm getting a different impression. Seems to me there was some interesting information presented in the first post in this thread and poindexter never took it seriously from the beginning. There was the "good lord what have I done" response, followed by "there's 25 minutes of my life I won't get back" and the dripping with sarcasm "I'm ready for my next lesson". The thread continues, largely without the participation of the person who started it, and then goes quiet for almost a week. Out of nowhere poindexter comes in with his final smart ass coup de grace directed at someone who hadn't really even engaged him for a week and you all think it's the offended party that needs thicker skin? IMO Mr Wolfcastle just crushed poindexter and IMO he deserved it. That's just my 2 cents. You guys can tell me all the reasons I'm wrong now.
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Post by poindexter on Oct 12, 2011 16:41:25 GMT -5
Well color me deservedly crushed. In case anyone missed it...read my tagline.
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Oct 12, 2011 16:59:46 GMT -5
Oh, so that's it then? The conspiracy theorist card? You disappoint me Poindexter. How is your dismissal of me any different than what you just chided americaneagle for doing in the occupy Wall St. thread? You made the statement that his labelling of people who don't agree with him as commies, Nazis, and socialists adds nothing to the conversation (I agree by the way) yet here you are trying to label and dismiss me in a similar fashion. A bit hypocritical don't you think? Even more disappointing than your hypocrisy though is that your comments show that we may have come to the end of your intellectual capabilities, and it didn't even take that long. Is that really all you have left in your arsenal? Condescending dismissal by way of an ad hominem attack. Your attempt to link me in a negative way to the subjects you listed may be a logical fallacy, but it's a fallacy none the less. I'm disappointed. Sorry you took my post as an offense RW. It was not intended as such. Just a poke (thus the emoticon and reference to the Essence). I'm not sure why you feel I've reached my intellectual limit. I've tried to engage you on several topics and even started a few myself in hopes of having a dialog that included more than just name calling. I don't intend to stop trying either. Surely your skin is thicker than this... I appreciate the mea culpa. I guess my mistake was thinking we were involved in a serious discussion but then out of nowhere and unprovoked you tried to play me off like some kind of kook. I'm all for breaking balls. I do it all the time. That crossed a line with me. Not to be the emoticon police either but if you're breaking balls try    ;D at the end of your posts   don't really convey the same message. Just sayin |
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Post by SpellChecker on Oct 12, 2011 17:29:55 GMT -5
and we have an official gimmick account..........I like it
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Post by lifesaver on Oct 12, 2011 19:26:43 GMT -5
poindexter, to be honest my initial reaction was the same as Rainer's. Thought to myself WTF??? But then, I remembered your tag line and thought I'd wait to see your reply before I posted. Glad I did. Sarcasm is a great way to get your point across but sometimes you inadvertently do cross that fine line. By the way, I have my own theory about the illusive "birth certificate" scandal, and it has nothing to do about where he was born.  |
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Post by poindexter on Oct 12, 2011 19:55:55 GMT -5
Sorry you took my post as an offense RW. It was not intended as such. Just a poke (thus the emoticon and reference to the Essence). I'm not sure why you feel I've reached my intellectual limit. I've tried to engage you on several topics and even started a few myself in hopes of having a dialog that included more than just name calling. I don't intend to stop trying either. Surely your skin is thicker than this... I appreciate the mea culpa. I guess my mistake was thinking we were involved in a serious discussion but then out of nowhere and unprovoked you tried to play me off like some kind of kook. I'm all for breaking balls. I do it all the time. That crossed a line with me. Not to be the emoticon police either but if you're breaking balls try ;D at the end of your posts don't really convey the same message. Just sayin As someone else here pointed out, this thread had been inactive for about a week. I'm telling you honestly that all I was trying to do was "bump" the thread with a touch of humor. I watched your clips and asked questions based on what I saw. We exchanged several times on the content. I didn't realize you had a "line" to cross here on this anonymous on-line forum. Now I do. And I've always thought that the use of ANY emoticon was a clearly stated use of tongue-in-cheek. I'll try to avoid the "serious" ones next time. See...there I go again. can't help myself. Maybe I'm just not cut out for this sort of thing... |
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Post by poindexter on Oct 12, 2011 19:59:21 GMT -5
Been reading a long time as a guest. I like these topics and I know my first post is probably going to ruffle some feathers. Maybe since I don't know any of the parties involved I'm getting a different impression. Seems to me there was some interesting information presented in the first post in this thread and poindexter never took it seriously from the beginning. There was the "good lord what have I done" response, followed by "there's 25 minutes of my life I won't get back" and the dripping with sarcasm "I'm ready for my next lesson". The thread continues, largely without the participation of the person who started it, and then goes quiet for almost a week. Out of nowhere poindexter comes in with his final smart ass coup de grace directed at someone who hadn't really even engaged him for a week and you all think it's the offended party that needs thicker skin? IMO Mr Wolfcastle just crushed poindexter and IMO he deserved it. That's just my 2 cents. You guys can tell me all the reasons I'm wrong now. Welcome to the Vent fatsam. I look forward to your contributions here. Out of all the activity here the last few weeks, I am honored that it was my egregious error in etiquette that brought you in from the cold. |
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Post by fatsam on Oct 13, 2011 6:39:29 GMT -5
Been reading a long time as a guest. I like these topics and I know my first post is probably going to ruffle some feathers. Maybe since I don't know any of the parties involved I'm getting a different impression. Seems to me there was some interesting information presented in the first post in this thread and poindexter never took it seriously from the beginning. There was the "good lord what have I done" response, followed by "there's 25 minutes of my life I won't get back" and the dripping with sarcasm "I'm ready for my next lesson". The thread continues, largely without the participation of the person who started it, and then goes quiet for almost a week. Out of nowhere poindexter comes in with his final smart ass coup de grace directed at someone who hadn't really even engaged him for a week and you all think it's the offended party that needs thicker skin? IMO Mr Wolfcastle just crushed poindexter and IMO he deserved it. That's just my 2 cents. You guys can tell me all the reasons I'm wrong now. Welcome to the Vent fatsam. I look forward to your contributions here. Out of all the activity here the last few weeks, I am honored that it was my egregious error in etiquette that brought you in from the cold. It wasn't really your posts that made me come off the sidelines. If anything it was more for ortannaoracle and the rest of the thin skin contingency. I will tell you though that I don't believe you were simply engaging in some good natured ribbing. I believe that's your story now, but I don't believe it was your original intent. I have trouble believing you now because it's pretty clear you set out to be snarky and dismissive right from the very beginning of the thread. Mr Wolfcastle didn't let the childish needling take him off point and he continued on in a very respectful manner. I guess you must have thought you needed to ratchet it up a little so you came up with that oh so clever list. One problem, he wasn't posting in the thread anymore. So there you sat just waiting for an opportunity to unload your clever little dig. That list sat burning a hole in your head for days, the horror. But you weren't about to let such a clever response go unused and after a few days you just couldn't help yourself. You came back and posted it out of nowhere, in response to nothing, and just to make sure there was no mistake you addressed the post specifically to Mr Wolfcastle. At that point you achieved what you had set out to do right from the very beginning. You finally managed to get under someones skin. Like a small child you just kept pushing buttons until you hit the right one. Now your story is "I was just joking around". That would have to be the story now wouldn't it? Because if you were just joking around that only makes you juvenile and mildly annoying. And if you weren't joking around? Well then everything Mr Wolfcastle wrote in response to you is spot on and you're a hypocrite with limited intellectual capabilities. I don't blame you for trying to sell the "It was just a joke" story now, after the fact. After all being juvenile and annoying, while less than ideal, is still way better than being a hypocrite with limited intellectual capabilities. Of course, this is just one man's opinion and I could be totally wrong. |
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Oct 13, 2011 7:19:27 GMT -5
I appreciate the mea culpa. I guess my mistake was thinking we were involved in a serious discussion but then out of nowhere and unprovoked you tried to play me off like some kind of kook. I'm all for breaking balls. I do it all the time. That crossed a line with me. Not to be the emoticon police either but if you're breaking balls try ;D at the end of your posts don't really convey the same message. Just sayin As someone else here pointed out, this thread had been inactive for about a week. I'm telling you honestly that all I was trying to do was "bump" the thread with a touch of humor. I watched your clips and asked questions based on what I saw. We exchanged several times on the content. I didn't realize you had a "line" to cross here on this anonymous on-line forum. Now I do. And I've always thought that the use of ANY emoticon was a clearly stated use of tongue-in-cheek. I'll try to avoid the "serious" ones next time. See...there I go again. can't help myself. Maybe I'm just not cut out for this sort of thing... Now you're just being a patronizing douche |
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Post by poindexter on Oct 13, 2011 7:34:19 GMT -5
Welcome to the Vent fatsam. I look forward to your contributions here. Out of all the activity here the last few weeks, I am honored that it was my egregious error in etiquette that brought you in from the cold. It wasn't really your posts that made me come off the sidelines. If anything it was more for ortannaoracle and the rest of the thin skin contingency. I will tell you though that I don't believe you were simply engaging in some good natured ribbing. I believe that's your story now, but I don't believe it was your original intent. I have trouble believing you now because it's pretty clear you set out to be snarky and dismissive right from the very beginning of the thread. Mr Wolfcastle didn't let the childish needling take him off point and he continued on in a very respectful manner. I guess you must have thought you needed to ratchet it up a little so you came up with that oh so clever list. One problem, he wasn't posting in the thread anymore. So there you sat just waiting for an opportunity to unload your clever little dig. That list sat burning a hole in your head for days, the horror. But you weren't about to let such a clever response go unused and after a few days you just couldn't help yourself. You came back and posted it out of nowhere, in response to nothing, and just to make sure there was no mistake you addressed the post specifically to Mr Wolfcastle. At that point you achieved what you had set out to do right from the very beginning. You finally managed to get under someones skin. Like a small child you just kept pushing buttons until you hit the right one. Now your story is "I was just joking around". That would have to be the story now wouldn't it? Because if you were just joking around that only makes you juvenile and mildly annoying. And if you weren't joking around? Well then everything Mr Wolfcastle wrote in response to you is spot on and you're a hypocrite with limited intellectual capabilities. I don't blame you for trying to sell the "It was just a joke" story now, after the fact. After all being juvenile and annoying, while less than ideal, is still way better than being a hypocrite with limited intellectual capabilities. Of course, this is just one man's opinion and I could be totally wrong. Ya know what fatsam? You're basically calling me a liar. So basically fuck you. |
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Post by poindexter on Oct 13, 2011 7:37:32 GMT -5
As someone else here pointed out, this thread had been inactive for about a week. I'm telling you honestly that all I was trying to do was "bump" the thread with a touch of humor. I watched your clips and asked questions based on what I saw. We exchanged several times on the content. I didn't realize you had a "line" to cross here on this anonymous on-line forum. Now I do. And I've always thought that the use of ANY emoticon was a clearly stated use of tongue-in-cheek. I'll try to avoid the "serious" ones next time. See...there I go again. can't help myself. Maybe I'm just not cut out for this sort of thing... Now you're just being a patronizing douche I'm the one being a douche? Ok. I'm done. |
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Post by lifesaver on Oct 13, 2011 8:29:08 GMT -5
Too much testosterone flying around. Get a grip guys.  Do one of you need to be proclaimed alpha dog before you'll let it go? Let's get back to talking about the issues. What do all of you think about Cain's 9-9-9 plan?  |
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Post by orrtannaoracle on Oct 13, 2011 10:01:24 GMT -5
Too much testosterone flying around. Get a grip guys. Do one of you need to be proclaimed alpha dog before you'll let it go? Let's get back to talking about the issues. What do all of you think about Cain's 9-9-9 plan?  He hasn't provided enough details to see whether or not it actually works on the revenue end. I'm dubious but I'm dubious about anyone's economic plans including the resident doofus at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. |
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Post by lifesaver on Oct 13, 2011 12:00:58 GMT -5
Too much testosterone flying around. Get a grip guys. Do one of you need to be proclaimed alpha dog before you'll let it go? Let's get back to talking about the issues. What do all of you think about Cain's 9-9-9 plan? He hasn't provided enough details to see whether or not it actually works on the revenue end. I'm dubious but I'm dubious about anyone's economic plans including the resident doofus at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. I guess I am dubious too, as I am not jumping in with both feet in support of this.....yet. But I also believe that the answer can really be something that simple, if we want it to be. I don't buy the theory that it unfairly targets those with low income. In my opinion it would make everyone accountable and contributing members to society. How many people on fixed income, food stamps, disability, or public assistance do you know that still seem to find the money to buy their cigarettes or beer, or that 5lbs of shrimp with their food stamps? Now, don't get me wrong, I don't begrudge that they do that, I just think their priorities are off kilter. So if they can buy their cigarettes, beer and shrimp on our dime, they can afford that flat sales tax too. Just my opinion. |
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Post by HoneyBadger on Oct 13, 2011 13:49:00 GMT -5
I've read nearly everything Poindexter has written on BV and I liked his "snarkiness."
Nuts to BoroVENT. It's become one giant craphole and I don't need it either.
Ron Paul is a pro-life nutter and I don't give a hoot what anyone says to the contrary.
And Herman Cain does have his 9-9-9 reversed. I think that he means 6-6-6.
All this has been is one dog pissing on the other and I think that fatsam is another piece of work who was waiting for his chance to worm his way in. Good job dude. It's all yours.
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Post by lifesaver on Oct 13, 2011 14:11:36 GMT -5
I've read nearly everything Poindexter has written on BV and I liked his "snarkiness." Nuts to BoroVENT. It's become one giant craphole and I don't need it either. Ron Paul is a pro-life nutter and I don't give a hoot what anyone says to the contrary. And Herman Cain does have his 9-9-9 reversed. I think that he means 6-6-6. All this has been is one dog pissing on the other and I think that fatsam is another piece of work who was waiting for his chance to worm his way in. Good job dude. It's all yours. All the things that make BV great  (whether I agree or not.) BTW FT, did you know Michelle Bachman made the same comment about Cain and his 9-9-9 plan? Does that mean that you are a supporter of Michelle Bachman? Somehow I don't think so. For the same reason I don't think you should dismiss Ron Paul for his pro-life stance. I still can't get over that stupid comment that kid made in that one video about why he "had" to vote again for Obama (or insert any other candidate of choice here if you want) even though he disagreed about what he was doing. Sometimes I think that some people in this country should be screened for mental competency before they are allowed to cast a vote. |
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Post by HoneyBadger on Oct 13, 2011 14:59:49 GMT -5
I've read nearly everything Poindexter has written on BV and I liked his "snarkiness." Nuts to BoroVENT. It's become one giant craphole and I don't need it either. Ron Paul is a pro-life nutter and I don't give a hoot what anyone says to the contrary. And Herman Cain does have his 9-9-9 reversed. I think that he means 6-6-6. All this has been is one dog pissing on the other and I think that fatsam is another piece of work who was waiting for his chance to worm his way in. Good job dude. It's all yours. All the things that make BV great (whether I agree or not.) BTW FT, did you know Michelle Bachman made the same comment about Cain and his 9-9-9 plan? Does that mean that you are a supporter of Michelle Bachman? Somehow I don't think so. For the same reason I don't think you should dismiss Ron Paul for his pro-life stance. I still can't get over that stupid comment that kid made in that one video about why he "had" to vote again for Obama (or insert any other candidate of choice here if you want) even though he disagreed about what he was doing. Sometimes I think that some people in this country should be screened for mental competency before they are allowed to cast a vote. I tried to like Ron Paul. I can't do it because he waffles just like the others. I don't listen to anything that Michelle Bachmann says; I didn't know that she said 6-6-6. Had I known I wouldn't have said it. I have noticed that the clips on here for the most part are biased in that they make the people look like asses. I've viewed multiple clips where the protesters made sense and had their own personal reasons for being there. By the way, the kid is right because the Republican candidates are scary. Frankly, I vote for whomever I please and if I'm wrong - it's my right to be wrong. At this point I have no intention of voting in the next presidential election because I don't like anyone but I dislike Obama the least. Bottom line, I'm sick of the nonsense on BoroVENT. It's not fun, it's not educational, it's not even controversial. It's become like kids on the playground and I played my own part in that bit of mini-drama. For Poindexter - who has always been honest about sarcasm, wit and insults - to delete himself....it proves to me that I was right the first time around. It it isn't fun why play? So no more questions for me because I'm taking myself out of the playground. |
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Post by lifesaver on Oct 13, 2011 15:19:01 GMT -5
All the things that make BV great (whether I agree or not.) BTW FT, did you know Michelle Bachman made the same comment about Cain and his 9-9-9 plan? Does that mean that you are a supporter of Michelle Bachman? Somehow I don't think so. For the same reason I don't think you should dismiss Ron Paul for his pro-life stance. I still can't get over that stupid comment that kid made in that one video about why he "had" to vote again for Obama (or insert any other candidate of choice here if you want) even though he disagreed about what he was doing. Sometimes I think that some people in this country should be screened for mental competency before they are allowed to cast a vote. I tried to like Ron Paul. I can't do it because he waffles just like the others. I don't listen to anything that Michelle Bachmann says; I didn't know that she said 6-6-6. Had I known I wouldn't have said it. I have noticed that the clips on here for the most part are biased in that they make the people look like asses. I've viewed multiple clips where the protesters made sense and had their own personal reasons for being there. By the way, the kid is right because the Republican candidates are scary. Frankly, I vote for whomever I please and if I'm wrong - it's my right to be wrong. At this point I have no intention of voting in the next presidential election because I don't like anyone but I dislike Obama the least. Bottom line, I'm sick of the nonsense on BoroVENT. It's not fun, it's not educational, it's not even controversial. It's become like kids on the playground and I played my own part in that bit of mini-drama. For Poindexter - who has always been honest about sarcasm, wit and insults - to delete himself....it proves to me that I was right the first time around. It it isn't fun why play? So no more questions for me because I'm taking myself out of the playground. Yes you will....I know where you live And yes, I think that kid is stupid....you would actually be the smarter one for not choosing anyone rather than just choosing the least objectionable candidate. Meanwhile, I am still trying to make a decision and I look on BV as one way to help me make it. You and poindexter don't seem to me as the type to cut and run. I'm disappointed in both of you. But I still like you. |
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Post by SpellChecker on Oct 13, 2011 16:49:08 GMT -5
I expect this im taking my ball and going home shit from the ncg crowd but for fucks sake from someone who had the line at the bottom of his post that poindexter did. Bwahhahahahahaha and you wanna be all sarcastic and shit and then as soon a the ball gets thrown back into your court you run off. Hats off to RW for how he handled this whole thing.
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Post by SpellChecker on Oct 13, 2011 16:53:13 GMT -5
While im at it.......FT of you're going to keep deleting your account in a typicle drama queen fashion then why not just stop posting and stay away. I like u but for the love of jesus stay or go already. You're acting like the tools from ncg
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Post by linda on Oct 13, 2011 17:35:36 GMT -5
While im at it.......FT of you're going to keep deleting your account in a typicle drama queen fashion then why not just stop posting and stay away. I like u but for the love of jesus stay or go already. You're acting like the tools from ncg Spellchecker - I came back as myself to share this little piece of me with you - Go ram a hot poker up your ass. I can't believe that you compare me to the tools from NCG. FYI - Venter would put a stop to it but if I wanted to do so I could delete and re-create myself with a new identity every day if I chose. You don't know me and you don't know anything that matters about me. You can't possibly like me because you don't know me. Right this minute - if you were in front of me I'd do my level best to take a sledge hammer to your face. I'll share this last comment with you - it was embarassing when I deleted my profile over something that had nothing to with BV but I dumped my pride and gathered my courage and came back. Thanks for pointing out that I'm nothing but a pain in the ass. I really needed that. |
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Post by fatsam on Oct 13, 2011 17:42:47 GMT -5
I expect this im taking my ball and going home shit from the ncg crowd but for fucks sake from someone who had the line at the bottom of his post that poindexter did. Bwahhahahahahaha and you wanna be all sarcastic and shit and then as soon a the ball gets thrown back into your court you run off. Hats off to RW for how he handled this whole thing. Every one of poindexters posts contains some semi controversial element intended to illicit a response. I gave him a response. I fully admit to not understanding the dynamics here yet but is this common? Maybe I hit a little to close to bullseye? |
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Post by linda on Oct 13, 2011 17:47:18 GMT -5
I tried to like Ron Paul. I can't do it because he waffles just like the others. I don't listen to anything that Michelle Bachmann says; I didn't know that she said 6-6-6. Had I known I wouldn't have said it. I have noticed that the clips on here for the most part are biased in that they make the people look like asses. I've viewed multiple clips where the protesters made sense and had their own personal reasons for being there. By the way, the kid is right because the Republican candidates are scary. Frankly, I vote for whomever I please and if I'm wrong - it's my right to be wrong. At this point I have no intention of voting in the next presidential election because I don't like anyone but I dislike Obama the least. Bottom line, I'm sick of the nonsense on BoroVENT. It's not fun, it's not educational, it's not even controversial. It's become like kids on the playground and I played my own part in that bit of mini-drama. For Poindexter - who has always been honest about sarcasm, wit and insults - to delete himself....it proves to me that I was right the first time around. It it isn't fun why play? So no more questions for me because I'm taking myself out of the playground. Yes you will....I know where you live And yes, I think that kid is stupid....you would actually be the smarter one for not choosing anyone rather than just choosing the least objectionable candidate. Meanwhile, I am still trying to make a decision and I look on BV as one way to help me make it. You and poindexter don't seem to me as the type to cut and run. I'm disappointed in both of you. But I still like you. You may know where I live but it doesn't mean that you'll find me here. I've thought about the election but I don't trust anyone on BV to help me decide. There's no gray with the majority of these people. I am not a black and white person. Poindexter commented somewhere that he's leaving for Cali so maybe he just cut out early. You call it cut and run; I call it getting the hell out of a place where I never belonged. As far as I'm concerned I want my old life back pre-BoroVENT. No friends, no hassles. It worked for me for a long time and it can work for me again. I like you too but enough is enough. If I knew that one of my siblings would take Mom and and not put her in a nursing home I'd finish it all off. I have had my fill of everything. By the way you can pick up your things on your way home from work some morning; just call to be sure that Mom is here or I'll mail them to you. For any smart ass who has any comments - don't bother because I don't give a damn what any of you think of me. |
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don't really convey the same message. Just sayin
Do one of you need to be proclaimed alpha dog before you'll let it go? Let's get back to talking about the issues. What do all of you think about Cain's 9-9-9 plan? 
He hasn't provided enough details to see whether or not it actually works on the revenue end. I'm dubious but I'm dubious about anyone's economic plans including the resident doofus at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue. 
(whether I agree or not.) BTW FT, did you know Michelle Bachman made the same comment about Cain and his 9-9-9 plan? Does that mean that you are a supporter of Michelle Bachman? Somehow I don't think so. For the same reason I don't think you should dismiss Ron Paul for his pro-life stance. I still can't get over that stupid comment that kid made in that one video about why he "had" to vote again for Obama (or insert any other candidate of choice here if you want) even though he disagreed about what he was doing. Sometimes I think that some people in this country should be screened for mental competency before they are allowed to cast a vote.