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Post by goingforbroke on Sept 21, 2010 11:31:01 GMT -5
First let me say that I have been reading boroughvent since it began. It's a very informative (and many times entertaining) site to go to.
I won't say my name, but I will tell you that I work at the Gettysburg Times. This morning, I became aware that Keith Miller, from Connecticut, had contacted our boss trying to get Scot Pitzer fired. This is not the first time someone has done this to Scot from No Casino Gettysburg. Susan herself has even tried it.
I know that I should not have been privy to this information, and I certainly should not share it like this. However, I am fed up with these antics. I've been following the casino debate all along. I don't really have an opinion on the matter and mainly followed for a laugh or two. I should say that I DIDN'T have an opinion on the matter. I do now. I am for it and I am for it out of nothing but spite. I have worked with Scot for many years. He is a good reporter. He is an honest reporter too. He's been placed in the middle of this fight because it's his job! Scot doesn't have a devious bone in his body. Some times I have to question if he really is as genuine as he comes off because I find it hard to believe that there are any genuine and good people like him left.
For Susan Star Paddock and the other leaders of No Casino Gettysburg to actively go after his job, and then cry foul ball when someone allegedly tries to go after theirs, is hypocritical and childish.
I'd like to apologize to my co-workers and bosses if this brings any bad light on our paper. I just felt that I had to mention where I work so that people will know that I am closely related to the situation. I did not intend to bring any negative consequences on our company. But, honestly, this website is the only thing standing between me and going insane from all this insanity.
Thank you.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 21, 2010 12:11:18 GMT -5
It's fascinating to know that Keith Miller and Susan Star Paddock now want to suppress the news. I've never felt that Scot Pitzer skewed the news in any way and I thought that his coverage of the casino issue so far has been unbiased.
Their behavior isn't surprising. I'm a nobody and some of them targeted me. Certainly your boss has better sense than to bow to their demands. Doesn't the First Amendment extend to newspaper reporters?
Besides, I feel as if he and I are friends now. I made him shake my hand at the hearing. The poor guy looked baffled but it was fun for me.
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Post by MattC on Sept 21, 2010 12:23:00 GMT -5
I find it interesting that in all of the noise they make about what goes in the papers, the decision to not run LTE about the casino at all, stifles everyone's right to speak, even if they are rehashing old messages. With that said, I don't blame the Times at all for doing that. I would do the same thing just so I don't have to deal with the shitstorm.
About Scot: I'm not surprised by Keith's underhandedness at all. They're all like this. What I find funny is that when people, say, Sal, defend NCG as a whole by saying that the harassing phone calls and job threats and boycott threats are from "rogue NCG members" and, here, we have Susan and Keith, two heads of NCG and, in Keith's case, someone affiliated with the CWPT, trying to ruin a young man's career.
Is that what the CWPT is all about? I'm sure they know who Keith is-- and by that I mean what he's made of and what he's willing to do for a cause-- so they must condone him trying to get Scot fired. I think it's a shame when a preservation group like the CWPT, that does do some good work, soils themselves by being in bed with NCG. But, you lie down with dogs, you get up with fleas.
Scot's a good guy. Like "...broke" said, he's genuine. That's a good word for him. He really doesn't know how to be malicious or devious. He just doesn't.
And good for you, "...broke" for speaking up for what's right. I hope you don't get in trouble, but you did a good thing.
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 21, 2010 14:01:49 GMT -5
Let's also not forget the story from nearly 7 months ago about an anonymous caller trying to get Jeff Klein in trouble with his CO. A call I am certain also came directly from an NCG principle. This is exactly why I doubt the stories about Violet. You see NCG has been doing this behind the scenes for some time now and the Violet story is designed to give people like Sal a retort every time another unflattering story comes out about NCG's underhanded tactics. In fact Sal used the Violet story again today in another thread as a justification for someone trying to ruin our very own FT. Let's not forget the fact that they also tried to drag Brendan Synnamon's family and their businesses into this with wild accusations just because they didn't like the GBPA endorsing the casino.
There's been whispers about NCG people (Siderio, Paddock, Miller et al) trying to cause trouble for Scot and others for a long while now. Sooner or later this kind of stuff is going to get out. If anyone has any doubt that this is really going on just look at the events of the last 48 hours since Scot wrote his blog on the Times site. The Times announced they will no longer print casino LTE's, the pride of Tennessee was trashing Scot on Facebook while the pride of Connecticut was apparently firing off messages to the Times trying to get Scot fired. I think the Times saying they won't print those letters anymore is a direct result of their management being sick and tired of having to get phone calls and emails or even worse, having to have them come into their offices in person, complaining about this or that on a daily basis. I can't say I blame them.
Thank you goingforbroke for putting this out there. NCG needs to be exposed and called to the carpet for this stuff on a larger scale.
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 21, 2010 15:11:27 GMT -5
Sal,
are you there? Time to run in with a defense!!!!!!!!!!
What is it with these dirt bags and trying to get everyone fired??
How much more scummy and rotten can these people get?
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 21, 2010 15:28:44 GMT -5
Sal, are you there? Time to run in with a defense!!!!!!!!!! What is it with these dirt bags and trying to get everyone fired?? How much more scummy and rotten can these people get? How low can low go? They'll go lower. |
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 21, 2010 15:32:17 GMT -5
Sal, are you there? Time to run in with a defense!!!!!!!!!! What is it with these dirt bags and trying to get everyone fired?? How much more scummy and rotten can these people get? How low can low go? They'll go lower. I'm actually getting anxious waiting for their responce to this one |
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Post by Javier Miguel Vazquez III on Sept 21, 2010 17:07:12 GMT -5
Who is Keith Miller?
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Post by weekender on Sept 21, 2010 19:27:49 GMT -5
He is that condescending prick from CT who went on Fox News on behalf of NCG, he testified at the hearing on behalf of the Adams COunty Mission and also went on the PA cable news and proceeded to tell them that residents of adams county are, among other things, to cheap to be able to sustain a casino because they will not tip when they go to the casino... He probably said many more offensive things during his 5 minutes but that is what sticks out in my mind, well that and the fact that he always looks like he needs to take a poop! Sorry, I should not have gone there  ... |
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 21, 2010 20:01:03 GMT -5
well that and the fact that he always looks like he needs to take a poop! Sorry, I should not have gone there ... We were all thinking it. He is your typical yuppie from CT. |
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 21, 2010 21:21:33 GMT -5
He is that condescending prick from CT who went on Fox News on behalf of NCG, he testified at the hearing on behalf of the Adams COunty Mission and also went on the PA cable news and proceeded to tell them that residents of adams county are, among other things, to cheap to be able to sustain a casino because they will not tip when they go to the casino... He probably said many more offensive things during his 5 minutes but that is what sticks out in my mind, well that and the fact that he always looks like he needs to take a poop! Sorry, I should not have gone there ... Too cool! I'm proud of you - I definitely could not have said it better. I hope that we get to meet sometime. By the way, Karla loves being a home health care/hospice social worker. I can hardly wait for you to complete your studies. |
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Post by jhunter on Sept 21, 2010 21:30:21 GMT -5
finally worked my over to the new site.
thank you for sharing this information, and it is my personal hope that the Fords and Mr. Small see through the No casino Gettysburg propaganda.
as for Scot Pitzer, in my dealings and conservations with him, he’s always been fair minded and objective, and that’s proven every day in his work. He understands his role as a reporter and loves his work but also understands that it’s a small town newspaper that operates mostly on advertising dollars with local businesses, with a stagnant subscription. in that sense, he knows it’s unnecessary to treat every story like it’s the Kennedy assassination but he also understands that he covers the paper's primary beat, so he knows its on the front page every day and he always gives his work more than 110 percent.
most politicians in town consider Scot a friend, not because they play poker or hunt together, but because they trust him.
He treats most everything he does with a sense of humor, but also with delicacy because of his job. go out and poll most public figures in the community, whether its Rich Alloway, Flo Ford or Gene Golden, Cheryl Hankey, Holly Giles or God forbid, even the Devil himself Dave Levan, and they’ll tell you that they trust him, and return his calls.
with that being said, it’s utter lunacy to hear that Keith Miller, Violet Clark, Dan Siderio, Libby Mitchell and others in the “No Casino Gettysburg” movement have tried to get Scot fired or accosted him. seems like harassment.
why do outsiders like Miller or Clark that livein Austrialia, Tennessee, or Connecticut think that they’re better suited to report the news in this area, than someone that has lived and grew up here his whole life, knows the pulse of the community and has built a good reputation?
they trash Scot and want him fired or demoted, but those that know him and his family know it’s untrue. Scot has volunteered in fundraisers over the last few years, and hosts the Upper Adams Memorial Day program, that I’ve attended with my family.
the people that attack his credibility, livelihood and profession simply have no credibility and ought to be ashamed of themselves.
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Post by MattC on Sept 21, 2010 22:59:23 GMT -5
finally worked my over to the new site. thank you for sharing this information, and it is my personal hope that the Fords and Mr. Small see through the No casino Gettysburg propaganda. as for Scot Pitzer, in my dealings and conservations with him, he’s always been fair minded and objective, and that’s proven every day in his work. He understands his role as a reporter and loves his work but also understands that it’s a small town newspaper that operates mostly on advertising dollars with local businesses, with a stagnant subscription. in that sense, he knows it’s unnecessary to treat every story like it’s the Kennedy assassination but he also understands that he covers the paper's primary beat, so he knows its on the front page every day and he always gives his work more than 110 percent. most politicians in town consider Scot a friend, not because they play poker or hunt together, but because they trust him. He treats most everything he does with a sense of humor, but also with delicacy because of his job. go out and poll most public figures in the community, whether its Rich Alloway, Flo Ford or Gene Golden, Cheryl Hankey, Holly Giles or God forbid, even the Devil himself Dave Levan, and they’ll tell you that they trust him, and return his calls. with that being said, it’s utter lunacy to hear that Keith Miller, Violet Clark, Dan Siderio, Libby Mitchell and others in the “No Casino Gettysburg” movement have tried to get Scot fired or accosted him. seems like harassment. why do outsiders like Miller or Clark that livein Austrialia, Tennessee, or Connecticut think that they’re better suited to report the news in this area, than someone that has lived and grew up here his whole life, knows the pulse of the community and has built a good reputation? they trash Scot and want him fired or demoted, but those that know him and his family know it’s untrue. Scot has volunteered in fundraisers over the last few years, and hosts the Upper Adams Memorial Day program, that I’ve attended with my family. the people that attack his credibility, livelihood and profession simply have no credibility and ought to be ashamed of themselves. well put. well put |
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Post by Mr Blonde on Sept 22, 2010 7:40:57 GMT -5
Can someone post Pitzer's blog or a link to it so I can read what all the fuss is about?
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 22, 2010 8:28:03 GMT -5
Can someone post Pitzer's blog or a link to it so I can read what all the fuss is about? I don't think it's about the blog per se although they (NCG) sure didn't seem to like it for reasons I still don't understand. I've been hearing stories about them trying to get rid of Scot, or at the very least off the casino stories, for a very long time now. I think the nonsense over the blog was just the straw that broke the camel's back. I'm sure Dan Siderio going into the times with a transcript of his call in to the governor and telling them to print it played a part because as I hear it NCG has been trying to tel the Times how to run their for a very long time. Would you want these people calling, emailing, and showing up at your place of business nonstop telling you what a crappy job you're doing, how you can do it better, and who should be in your employ? www.gettysburgtimes.com/news/blogs/article_8a297514-c42c-11df-b357-001cc4c002e0.html |
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Post by Javier Miguel Vazquez III on Sept 22, 2010 9:42:08 GMT -5
Interested in hearing what Sal or any of the NCG defenders have to say about Miller's antics.
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Post by MattC on Sept 22, 2010 10:26:27 GMT -5
I was thinking about this whole situation last night and this morning. The more I think about it, the more it boils my blood. Typical liberals. Someone says or does something they don't agree with, what's the first thing they demand before an apology? That the person lose their job. Do you see why I liken NCG (and all liberals) to terrorists? Remove the bombs and the turbans from the equation and you have the same thing.
Scot is a friend of mine and he's just trying to get by like the rest of us. How nice that Keith, from his ivory tower in CT, can make a phone call in an effort to keep someone down and always struggling. That cocksucker faked concern on PCN for the stupid people of Adams County who would be too dumb to know not to get addicted. And here he takes action to try to ruin the livelihood of a truly good guy.
If I were Scot, this man and his ilk would rue the day that they decided to fuck with my living. And by "rue", I don't mean the late Rue McClanahan. That he's not doing anything astounds me. Just proof that Scot is a better man than I.
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 22, 2010 11:18:39 GMT -5
Interested in hearing what Sal or any of the NCG defenders have to say about Miller's antics. Just a guess but I would think we will see Sal take an extended break from BV until this is forgotten. Atleast that seemed to be his past track record when things like this came up. |
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Post by izneers on Sept 22, 2010 16:31:40 GMT -5
Hey MattC, I am a liberal of the first order and I wholeheartedly support the casino--sign in the yard supporter. Please don't don't let your hatred cloud good reasoning. Some of the most conservative people I know are NCG.
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Post by clm750 on Sept 22, 2010 17:50:36 GMT -5
Are they picking on Scoty Again! I will go beat him up!!!
Leave Scot ALONE!!
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Post by weekender on Sept 22, 2010 20:40:29 GMT -5
Too cool! I'm proud of you - I definitely could not have said it better. I hope that we get to meet sometime. By the way, Karla loves being a home health care/hospice social worker. I can hardly wait for you to complete your studies. Oh thanks! It is easy to say things I would never in real life, from behind my keyboard! Actually, I may have the cajones to tell that guy what an ass he is... I hope we can meet some time too, it will happen! My problem is that I am really only around on weekends, which not is when the BV events happen or I would have shown my face already...  Karla is clearly more brave than I am, I would never be able to do anything close to hospice, good work but I would be a basketcase... People who can do what she does are held in my highest regard. I have recently started working with seniors under guardianships, making sure that they are getting the care that they deserve, so far so good! But makes for much less time to be riding my bicycle around gettysburg! Keep figting the good fight and smiling too!!  |
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Post by jhunter on Sept 22, 2010 22:43:56 GMT -5
Susan herself has even tried it. you've got to understand, Scott is not Bob Durgin, considered an "investigative reporter' by NCG. |
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Post by dspitz17325 on Sept 23, 2010 5:55:53 GMT -5
Did you know a little town with no important history is opening their casino today , Sugar land casino in Philadelphia opens today and after all such a unimportant town i guess the no casino Bozos never heard of this town since Star her self said that the Country started in Gettysburg .  |
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Post by MattC on Sept 23, 2010 7:39:48 GMT -5
Hey MattC, I am a liberal of the first order and I wholeheartedly support the casino--sign in the yard supporter. Please don't don't let your hatred cloud good reasoning. Some of the most conservative people I know are NCG. I'll give you this one. You're right. Let's just say that extremists of both parties are mindless boobs and are against everything and anything. |
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 23, 2010 13:17:24 GMT -5
wow whats it been now 2-3 days......Mr. Sal still hasn't shown up to speak about this nor any of his other NCG buddies. Convient time for a hiatis on sal's part eh?
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