Protests on other businesses

[getysbg]

I'm participating in a debate on 10/30 about the casino issue in Gettysburg. I need some info regarding any protests when other businesses opened, such as Boyd's Bears, Eisenhower Inn and anything else between there and the junction with Rte. 15

[Javier Miguel Vazquez III]

There were no protests when those other businesses opened.

Its funny how ninety individuals protested against the casino at the Comfort Suites hotel hearing, saying that it was 'hallowed ground' when no one bothered to complain three years ago when Jay Patel built the Comfort Suites within feet of the cemetery where Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Adddress.

[Fire Marshal Bill]

I can't recall any protest against any business in the area. I do recall Boyd's Bears had to get some variances but everything went through with no problems.

[HoneyBadger]

FMB is correct and I've lived here nearly as long as he ('cause he's older). We don't have protests here about businesses coming because we're happy to see new employment come to the area.

There was complaining from the same group of naysayers when there was talk of a water park which would have been in the same general area as Boyd's Bears and the Eisenhower Inn if memory serves correctly. Visitors of Gettysburg might have laughed and had fun and ruined the sanctity of this sacred place.

I think the prevailing attitude among a certain group of people is that they are protecting hallowed ground and nothing should be permitted to live and thrive in the vicinity. They are grounds of death. Interesting because Earth herself - if given the opportunity - will regenerate herself and thrive in the path of prior destruction. Except on the battlefield.

Consequently, if the naysayers have their way, perhaps by the 150th anniversary of the creation of this hallowed ground Gettysburg will be dead and deserted. How fitting.

On the other hand, those of us who love Gettysburg will fight to stay until the park service pries our doorknobs out of our cold, dead hands.

Sorry - I've been doing housework all day long - I needed an escape.

Had to edit to change pink to maroon to express happy. Pink doesn't show well.

[Rainier Wolfcastle]

Nope. Nothing. There have been a host of threats made by members and supporters of NCG to boycott businesses that support the casino though.

[Fire Marshal Bill]

Oct 9, 2010 16:26:27 GMT -5 HoneyBadger said:

FMB is correct and I've lived here nearly as long as he ('cause he's older). We don't have protests here about businesses coming because we're happy to see new employment come to the area.

There was complaining from the same group of naysayers when there was talk of a water park which would have been in the same general area as Boyd's Bears and the Eisenhower Inn if memory serves correctly. Visitors of Gettysburg might have laughed and had fun and ruined the sanctity of this sacred place.

I think the prevailing attitude among a certain group of people is that they are protecting hallowed ground and nothing should be permitted to live and thrive in the vicinity. They are grounds of death. Interesting because Earth herself - if given the opportunity - will regenerate herself and thrive in the path of prior destruction. Except on the battlefield.

Consequently, if the naysayers have their way, perhaps by the 150th anniversary of the creation of this hallowed ground Gettysburg will be dead and deserted. How fitting.

On the other hand, those of us who love Gettysburg will fight to stay until the park service pries our doorknobs out of our cold, dead hands.

Sorry - I've been doing housework all day long - I needed an escape.

Had to edit to change pink to maroon to express happy. Pink doesn't show well.

DAMN well said YOUNG lady. I agree with you completely. I can't think of any other business that was not welcomed to the community. And those of us who have lived here and will probably/hopefully, live here till we die look forward to new businesses.

The National Park has 6000 acres of protected land that doesn't pay taxes to commemorate the sacrifices that these men, both blue and gray made here and I don't think anyone who is a life long resident will every allow anything to distract from the history and what happened here.

As one individual said at the hearings, “Living in Gettysburg is both a blessing and a responsibility,”. It is a blessing to have this sacred and hallowed ground to enjoy and share with our friends and neighbors from around the world. It is a blessing to have the many visitors we have each year and to learn from them.

But I feel the responsibility is to also protect and help those who are still alive and trying to live in the area, and of course still protect the history. And I don't believe I have found yet a supporter of this casino who feels it will in anyway hamper the tourist ability to enjoy the sacred ground, or to learn of the history we have to offer.

[ohbeserious]

only objections I remember were to the national tower. many years ago.

[rock]

But ohbeserious those objections weren't from the locals or transplants at that time they were from outsiders telling us what was best for us. The only protest that I can rememeber is when the State of Pa wanted to build a Welcome Center on the property that Barlow FD bought at the intersection of Barlow-Greenmount road and Ridge road about 5 to 10 years ago. That was a local area issue and had nothing to do with the business part of it.

[Fire Marshal Bill]

Oct 9, 2010 23:50:47 GMT -5 rock said:

But ohbeserious those objections weren't from the locals or transplants at that time they were from outsiders telling us what was best for us. The only protest that I can rememeber is when the State of Pa wanted to build a Welcome Center on the property that Barlow FD bought at the intersection of Barlow-Greenmount road and Ridge road about 5 to 10 years ago. That was a local area issue and had nothing to do with the business part of it.

The tower thing was not so much a protest. The initial site for the tower was at the intersection of Long Lane and the Emmitsburg road I believe. And the objections were those of parking and such, and was things of a local concern.

The removal of the tower was something that turned into a national issue where outsiders took money from our tax system.

[btw]

When the outlet mall was going in there was not "protests" but there was much opposition to the project and it was long and drawn out by the township for the approvals the residents of Lake Heritage were against the project because it would ruin their quaility of life, the crime would increase, the traffic would increase, and there would not be enough water, we were in a drought at the time. I worked for the company that built the hotel at the site at the time and it was about a 3 year delay from when the project was to start until it was granted approvals to start.

[JoJo]

Yeah, and one of the biggest opponents to the outlet mall was the Concerned Citizens of Cumberland Township's own Al Ferranto! Imagine that...

[rock]

btw the funniest thing about the whole thing is that it employees some of those same people who were against it and don't think I don't let them know that when I see them there loud and clear.

[BS Caller]

Oct 9, 2010 12:17:58 GMT -5 Javier Miguel Vazquez III said:

There were no protests when those other businesses opened.

Its funny how ninety individuals protested against the casino at the Comfort Suites hotel hearing, saying that it was 'hallowed ground' when no one bothered to complain three years ago when Jay Patel built the Comfort Suites within feet of the cemetery where Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Adddress.

Really? Maybe you and I run in different circles, but I remember hearing lots of complaints. If there had been public hearings that allowed for someone to stop the Comfort Suites I will bet good money that there would have been a more concerted effort to stop it.

[Javier Miguel Vazquez III]

Oct 13, 2010 11:26:04 GMT -5 @BS Caller said:

Oct 9, 2010 12:17:58 GMT -5 Javier Miguel Vazquez III said:

There were no protests when those other businesses opened.

Its funny how ninety individuals protested against the casino at the Comfort Suites hotel hearing, saying that it was 'hallowed ground' when no one bothered to complain three years ago when Jay Patel built the Comfort Suites within feet of the cemetery where Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Adddress.

Really? Maybe you and I run in different circles, but I remember hearing lots of complaints. If there had been public hearings that allowed for someone to stop the Comfort Suites I will bet good money that there would have been a more concerted effort to stop it.

WHy would there have been public meetings? The Comfort Suites is a legal business (just like the Eisenhower Hotel and casino) built on land zoned for hotels.

[jhunter]

Oct 13, 2010 11:26:04 GMT -5 @BS Caller said:

Oct 9, 2010 12:17:58 GMT -5 Javier Miguel Vazquez III said:

There were no protests when those other businesses opened.

Its funny how ninety individuals protested against the casino at the Comfort Suites hotel hearing, saying that it was 'hallowed ground' when no one bothered to complain three years ago when Jay Patel built the Comfort Suites within feet of the cemetery where Lincoln gave the Gettysburg Adddress.

Really? Maybe you and I run in different circles, but I remember hearing lots of complaints. If there had been public hearings that allowed for someone to stop the Comfort Suites I will bet good money that there would have been a more concerted effort to stop it.

you must live in a different county, bc i live in Cumberland township, and there were little to no complaints about the comfort suites.