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Post by Spin Doctor on Dec 10, 2013 12:35:36 GMT -5
The anti growth and anti development attitude continues in Gettysburg. Saw in today's paper that Gettysburg Council appointed Sue Cipperly to Gettysburg Municipal Authority in what President Birkner called a "non political move." Sure, Mike.
Jake Schindel, Kyle Leinbach and Claire Lewis all supported Ted Streeter.
Does anyone know Mrs. Cipperly's qualifications for this position?
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Post by Dexter on Dec 10, 2013 13:03:53 GMT -5
I don't think Miss Cipperly is anti-growth, but not sure. She use to work for the Adams County Planning Office. I think she now works for the boro of Emmitsburg or maybe the county down there?? I think it is pretty sad that the article includes no details on her.
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Post by Venter on Dec 10, 2013 13:21:01 GMT -5
I saw that too, and wondered how they've already got a replacement. If she was recommended by Graham Weaver, then it can't be too good  Sorry to see Streeter go. I think he has a good head on his shoulders. |
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Post by paulkellett on Dec 10, 2013 18:52:00 GMT -5
I, too, thought it sad that the article referred only to Mr. Streeter and his painting of the situation. I do not know Ms. Cipperly's stance, but I do know that Mr. Streeter may possibly be opposed for reasons other than growth issues. He refused o allow GMA representation at the public forum on the big pipe but the Pres. of York Water showed up and was a real class act and could not have been more pleasant. It is a shame when both sides of an issue are not heard. The expansion of the GMA board is not being proposed as an anti-growth agenda. Representation from Straban and Cumberland is critical as that is where growth will occur. The Boro has little room for new development and things will have to really change to see high rises going up in Gettysburg. I do agree that GMA should not be the tool that regulates growth, as that is definitely not their decision.
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Post by Spin Doctor on Dec 10, 2013 21:34:19 GMT -5
I, too, thought it sad that the article referred only to Mr. Streeter and his painting of the situation. I do not know Ms. Cipperly's stance, but I do know that Mr. Streeter may possibly be opposed for reasons other than growth issues. He refused o allow GMA representation at the public forum on the big pipe but the Pres. of York Water showed up and was a real class act and could not have been more pleasant. It is a shame when both sides of an issue are not heard. The expansion of the GMA board is not being proposed as an anti-growth agenda. Representation from Straban and Cumberland is critical as that is where growth will occur. The Boro has little room for new development and things will have to really change to see high rises going up in Gettysburg. I do agree that GMA should not be the tool that regulates growth, as that is definitely not their decision. Mr Kellett: You state that Mr Streeter 'refused to allow representation at a big pipe hearing' - specifically, where did you hear that from? Gettysburg Borough Council? Legal Counsel for the Borough? Susan Star Paddock? Susan Naugle? You should know that you cannot believe everything you hear. Period. You state that "representation" is essential from Straban and Cumberland. Please call Straban and ask them to participate in police regionalization discussions. And while you are at it, ask them to contribute to Freedom Transit. They don't deserve any seat at any table if they do not participate in other regionalization initiatives. Straban provides zero services to taxpayers, but feel they deserve seat on the GMA board. Mind boggling. |
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Post by Pro Casino on Dec 10, 2013 21:44:26 GMT -5
Does anyone know Mrs. Cipperly's qualifications for this position? Cipperly is a close personal friend of Susan Naugle - those are the only qualifications necessary to apply for a borough position. |
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Post by Alex Oreilly on Dec 10, 2013 23:43:30 GMT -5
I, too, thought it sad that the article referred only to Mr. Streeter and his painting of the situation. I do not know Ms. Cipperly's stance, but I do know that Mr. Streeter may possibly be opposed for reasons other than growth issues. He refused o allow GMA representation at the public forum on the big pipe but the Pres. of York Water showed up and was a real class act and could not have been more pleasant. It is a shame when both sides of an issue are not heard. The expansion of the GMA board is not being proposed as an anti-growth agenda. Representation from Straban and Cumberland is critical as that is where growth will occur. The Boro has little room for new development and things will have to really change to see high rises going up in Gettysburg. I do agree that GMA should not be the tool that regulates growth, as that is definitely not their decision. Mr Kellett: You state that Mr Streeter 'refused to allow representation at a big pipe hearing' - specifically, where did you hear that from? Gettysburg Borough Council? Legal Counsel for the Borough? Susan Star Paddock? Susan Naugle? You should know that you cannot believe everything you hear. Period. You state that "representation" is essential from Straban and Cumberland. Please call Straban and ask them to participate in police regionalization discussions. And while you are at it, ask them to contribute to Freedom Transit. They don't deserve any seat at any table if they do not participate in other regionalization initiatives. Straban provides zero services to taxpayers, but feel they deserve seat on the GMA board. Mind boggling. Interesting point Spindoctor, someone should bring this up to the Straban Supervisors at their next meeting. |
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Post by davew on Dec 11, 2013 7:53:15 GMT -5
And while you are at it, ask them to contribute to Freedom Transit. I hope the folks running straban are smarter enough to say "no" to spending their taxpayer's dollars on something like that. |
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Post by Venter on Dec 11, 2013 8:18:57 GMT -5
Good thing they rushed this through before the New Borough Council convenes in 2014. In the Times the other day, Pitzer seemed to defend Streeter - so the vote would probably be different in January. If Cipperly is a friend of Naugle, as suggested, then there's certainly NO Agenda there!  |
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Post by Venter on Dec 11, 2013 8:22:32 GMT -5
... but the Pres. of York Water showed up and was a real class act and could not have been more pleasant. ... Of COURSE he was pleasant. He's trying to sell us WATER we don't need! He's probably also selling snow to Eskimos  |
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Post by paulkellett on Dec 11, 2013 16:51:30 GMT -5
I, too, thought it sad that the article referred only to Mr. Streeter and his painting of the situation. I do not know Ms. Cipperly's stance, but I do know that Mr. Streeter may possibly be opposed for reasons other than growth issues. He refused o allow GMA representation at the public forum on the big pipe but the Pres. of York Water showed up and was a real class act and could not have been more pleasant. It is a shame when both sides of an issue are not heard. The expansion of the GMA board is not being proposed as an anti-growth agenda. Representation from Straban and Cumberland is critical as that is where growth will occur. The Boro has little room for new development and things will have to really change to see high rises going up in Gettysburg. I do agree that GMA should not be the tool that regulates growth, as that is definitely not their decision. Mr Kellett: You state that Mr Streeter 'refused to allow representation at a big pipe hearing' - specifically, where did you hear that from? Gettysburg Borough Council? Legal Counsel for the Borough? Susan Star Paddock? Susan Naugle? You should know that you cannot believe everything you hear. Period. You state that "representation" is essential from Straban and Cumberland. Please call Straban and ask them to participate in police regionalization discussions. And while you are at it, ask them to contribute to Freedom Transit. They don't deserve any seat at any table if they do not participate in other regionalization initiatives. Straban provides zero services to taxpayers, but feel they deserve seat on the GMA board. Mind boggling. Well, if you read the news coverage, I am VP of the Adams County Watershed Alliance and helped organize the event (and moderated it) and we extended an invitation to Mr. Streeter (as President of GMA Board) to have either himself or Mark Guise (Director of GMA) come and explain the big pipe idea and the need for it. Mr. Streeter said that he would not attend nor authorize Mr. Guise to attend. Now, I know that Straban has not been a good partner in regional projects, but they are part of the GMA service area. The growth that GMA is anticipating is in Straban ( and Cumberland), not within the confines of the Boro. Both townships are in the GMA service area, both are the growth areas that GMA wishes to serve. Now, I appreciate your frustration with Straban, but they have agreed to enter into developing a regional joint comprehensive plan with the other two; and have a large number of residents served by GMA, both good reasons to give them a seat on the board. |
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Post by Spin Doctor on Dec 19, 2013 23:46:30 GMT -5
Gettysburg Boro Council has the power to appoint anyone from Cumberland Township or Straban to the GMA board. No "expansion" is necessary for this "representation" to occur.
For as much time as they spend micromanaging everything at Boro Hall, you would think council would be aware of this simple fact.
If this has been "so important" to Gettysburg Council since 2012, why didn't they appoint a Straban or Cumberland resident to GMA when they dismissed Streeter? Instead they appointed another borough resident, Susan Cipperly (who know one seems to know anything about, other than being a friend of Mrs. Naugle, according to Pro Casino).
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Post by Venter on Dec 20, 2013 10:19:26 GMT -5
Wasn't Cipperly appointed before GMA decided NOT to expand their ranks to 7 Members? She's now just One of Five. I suppose the Borough Council should consider placing representatives to the Board. Considering how much crying they did to get neighboring townships to help foot the bill for the Borough Park, you'd think they'd jump at the chance to have Townships represent themselves in the GMA! Or doesn't it work both ways?  |
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