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Post by MattC on Sept 19, 2010 13:11:05 GMT -5
Like Rainier says, Townie. Sal gets it. But you have to get Sal. He's defended their antics for so long that he's committed now. It's hard to say, "You were right all along." So, he has to dig his heels in. I liken SSP and her small membership (if you count actual active, local members) to General Custer as he realized he hit the middle of the Indian village and not the other end of it as he thought. He retreated and took positions on a hilltop. Dug in and was surrounded and wiped out. NCG is heading for the top of a little knoll and Suzie is about to give the order to dismount and dig in. Sal's just digging in for his leader.
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 20, 2010 15:11:07 GMT -5
Like Rainier says, Townie. Sal gets it. But you have to get Sal. He's defended their antics for so long that he's committed now. It's hard to say, "You were right all along." So, he has to dig his heels in. I liken SSP and her small membership (if you count actual active, local members) to General Custer as he realized he hit the middle of the Indian village and not the other end of it as he thought. He retreated and took positions on a hilltop. Dug in and was surrounded and wiped out. NCG is heading for the top of a little knoll and Suzie is about to give the order to dismount and dig in. Sal's just digging in for his leader. Spot on analysis. Sal è testardo.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 20, 2010 15:23:38 GMT -5
Like Rainier says, Townie. Sal gets it. But you have to get Sal. He's defended their antics for so long that he's committed now. It's hard to say, "You were right all along." So, he has to dig his heels in. I liken SSP and her small membership (if you count actual active, local members) to General Custer as he realized he hit the middle of the Indian village and not the other end of it as he thought. He retreated and took positions on a hilltop. Dug in and was surrounded and wiped out. NCG is heading for the top of a little knoll and Suzie is about to give the order to dismount and dig in. Sal's just digging in for his leader. Spot on analysis. Sal � testardo. I'll ride with Crazy Horse and the rest of the Indians on this one.
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Post by weekender on Sept 20, 2010 15:27:50 GMT -5
I'll ride with Crazy Horse and the rest of the Indians on this one. has anyone told you lately how great you are? Just in case they have not, you truly are fabulous!
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Post by gburgbaseballmom on Sept 20, 2010 19:55:22 GMT -5
I'll ride with Crazy Horse and the rest of the Indians on this one. has anyone told you lately how great you are? Just in case they have not, you truly are fabulous! Hecks yeah!
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 20, 2010 20:22:55 GMT -5
I'll ride with Crazy Horse and the rest of the Indians on this one. has anyone told you lately how great you are? Just in case they have not, you truly are fabulous! Me??? NCG hates me. But thank you - you don't know how much I needed to hear something kind. Wow! I think I'm tearing up a bit.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 20, 2010 20:23:32 GMT -5
has anyone told you lately how great you are? Just in case they have not, you truly are fabulous! Hecks yeah! Thanks, Mom.
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Post by weekender on Sept 20, 2010 20:55:41 GMT -5
has anyone told you lately how great you are? Just in case they have not, you truly are fabulous! Me??? NCG hates me. But thank you - you don't know how much I needed to hear something kind. Wow! I think I'm tearing up a bit. Of course you, you are full of surprises!!! OMG, I would think that you would consider it an honor to be on their sh*t list! They hate anyone who has a mind of their own and does not agree with them. I would be worried if they knew who I was (which I suspect they do, not that it matters!) and didn't hate me too! You have a good night!
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Post by SFP on Sept 21, 2010 10:12:14 GMT -5
You just don't get the difference between Violet and me, do you? Violet has been in the press since the beginning. She has been out there for everyone to see and hear. Violet actually encouraged people to vilify her. She reveled in the publicity. She gave as good as she got and enjoyed it all. She even has her own lap dog. I didn't do any of those things but I was singled out by your people. I'm a nobody and I certainly don't revel in publicity. Most of my talking has been on BV with people who mattered to me. The "lap dog" I wanted bit me and ran away. No book sales for me. Linda, I get the difference between the 2 of you - I'm saying that what happened to both of you is the same type of thing thats all. The problem is that anybody who writes a letter or speaks out puts themselves out there for others to poke at, whether on the forums or here. Or putting a sign on your business - same difference. Like I said. this thing has gone way past anything that makes any sense as you keep looking at the rhetoric going further and further out of sight. Can't imagine the crap thats going to be flying 2 months from now if this thing doesn't end.
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Post by SFP on Sept 21, 2010 10:17:48 GMT -5
Like Rainier says, Townie. Sal gets it. But you have to get Sal. He's defended their antics for so long that he's committed now. It's hard to say, "You were right all along." So, he has to dig his heels in. I liken SSP and her small membership (if you count actual active, local members) to General Custer as he realized he hit the middle of the Indian village and not the other end of it as he thought. He retreated and took positions on a hilltop. Dug in and was surrounded and wiped out. NCG is heading for the top of a little knoll and Suzie is about to give the order to dismount and dig in. Sal's just digging in for his leader. I'm not digging in for anybody but me Matt - just saying that this has gotten way out of line as the debate has gone on. Phone calls to where people work, the bull and games, all of that IMHO go way beyond any kind of reasonable discussion. I'm going to try to limit my future comments to the items that can be debated, but not going to contribute to fanning the fires of rhetoric that have gone way beyond anything that what used to be civil discussion
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Post by MattC on Sept 21, 2010 10:48:23 GMT -5
You just don't get the difference between Violet and me, do you? Violet has been in the press since the beginning. She has been out there for everyone to see and hear. Violet actually encouraged people to vilify her. She reveled in the publicity. She gave as good as she got and enjoyed it all. She even has her own lap dog. I didn't do any of those things but I was singled out by your people. I'm a nobody and I certainly don't revel in publicity. Most of my talking has been on BV with people who mattered to me. The "lap dog" I wanted bit me and ran away. No book sales for me. Linda, I get the difference between the 2 of you - I'm saying that what happened to both of you is the same type of thing thats all. The problem is that anybody who writes a letter or speaks out puts themselves out there for others to poke at, whether on the forums or here. Or putting a sign on your business - same difference. Like I said. this thing has gone way past anything that makes any sense as you keep looking at the rhetoric going further and further out of sight. Can't imagine the crap thats going to be flying 2 months from now if this thing doesn't end. Sal, it's still not the same thing that happened to them. Big Vi exposed herself (go ahead, Gene) and said "Look at me, I speak for the fallen and for my group of sheeple". That makes her a leader of a movement. Linda, is John Q. Public joining the debate. John Q. Public should not live in fear of losing his or her job simply because he or she happens to disagree with a vile, despicable person(s). No one is going after Violet's job. I certainly am not. Not my style. But an NCGer has at least threatened to go after Linda's. And that only proves the point that NCG not only wants to keep Adams County unemployed, but they want to help add to the numbers. Your defending them, or trying to make moral equivalents, only reflects badly on you, Sal. Do they have to kill someone before you take a step back and say, "Hey, wait. We may not want a casino, but I don't agree with their tactics." You know full well that they have injected this nastiness into our community from the moment Mason Dixon announced it was going for the license. Do you find it ok for them to smear Dave Levan and Dave Latorre? I mean you must because I can't seem to recall you speaking out against it. However, it must be wrong, in your mind, for anyone to say anything bad about the very people who have trashed the Daves.
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Post by MattC on Sept 21, 2010 10:50:04 GMT -5
Like Rainier says, Townie. Sal gets it. But you have to get Sal. He's defended their antics for so long that he's committed now. It's hard to say, "You were right all along." So, he has to dig his heels in. I liken SSP and her small membership (if you count actual active, local members) to General Custer as he realized he hit the middle of the Indian village and not the other end of it as he thought. He retreated and took positions on a hilltop. Dug in and was surrounded and wiped out. NCG is heading for the top of a little knoll and Suzie is about to give the order to dismount and dig in. Sal's just digging in for his leader. I'm not digging in for anybody but me Matt - just saying that this has gotten way out of line as the debate has gone on. Phone calls to where people work, the bull and games, all of that IMHO go way beyond any kind of reasonable discussion. I'm going to try to limit my future comments to the items that can be debated, but not going to contribute to fanning the fires of rhetoric that have gone way beyond anything that what used to be civil discussion disregard what I said about you agreeing with their tactics. I didn't see your response in this one.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 21, 2010 11:00:00 GMT -5
Me??? NCG hates me. But thank you - you don't know how much I needed to hear something kind. Wow! I think I'm tearing up a bit. Of course you, you are full of surprises!!! OMG, I would think that you would consider it an honor to be on their sh*t list! They hate anyone who has a mind of their own and does not agree with them. I would be worried if they knew who I was (which I suspect they do, not that it matters!) and didn't hate me too! You have a good night! I do have a few surprises in me. I unleash them when the mood strikes. Trust me weekender, I am honored to be on their sh*t list. There isn't one sheep in that group whose opinion is significant to me. I'm not worried any more about them hurting me either. I can do some damage of my own if necessary...and I will. I don't document activities because I'm a writer - it's called CYA.
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Post by SFP on Sept 21, 2010 11:00:03 GMT -5
Linda, I get the difference between the 2 of you - I'm saying that what happened to both of you is the same type of thing thats all. The problem is that anybody who writes a letter or speaks out puts themselves out there for others to poke at, whether on the forums or here. Or putting a sign on your business - same difference. Like I said. this thing has gone way past anything that makes any sense as you keep looking at the rhetoric going further and further out of sight. Can't imagine the crap thats going to be flying 2 months from now if this thing doesn't end. Sal, it's still not the same thing that happened to them. Big Vi exposed herself (go ahead, Gene) and said "Look at me, I speak for the fallen and for my group of sheeple". That makes her a leader of a movement. Linda, is John Q. Public joining the debate. John Q. Public should not live in fear of losing his or her job simply because he or she happens to disagree with a vile, despicable person(s). No one is going after Violet's job. I certainly am not. Not my style. But an NCGer has at least threatened to go after Linda's. And that only proves the point that NCG not only wants to keep Adams County unemployed, but they want to help add to the numbers. Your defending them, or trying to make moral equivalents, only reflects badly on you, Sal. Do they have to kill someone before you take a step back and say, "Hey, wait. We may not want a casino, but I don't agree with their tactics." You know full well that they have injected this nastiness into our community from the moment Mason Dixon announced it was going for the license. Do you find it ok for them to smear Dave Levan and Dave Latorre? I mean you must because I can't seem to recall you speaking out against it. However, it must be wrong, in your mind, for anyone to say anything bad about the very people who have trashed the Daves. The comparison I was making is that people did indeed call the college where Violet worked and did go after her job. That did happen - not just once or twice. I don't someone going after Lina's job any more than condoning them going after Viotlet's or anyone elses on either side.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 21, 2010 11:01:17 GMT -5
You just don't get the difference between Violet and me, do you? Violet has been in the press since the beginning. She has been out there for everyone to see and hear. Violet actually encouraged people to vilify her. She reveled in the publicity. She gave as good as she got and enjoyed it all. She even has her own lap dog. I didn't do any of those things but I was singled out by your people. I'm a nobody and I certainly don't revel in publicity. Most of my talking has been on BV with people who mattered to me. The "lap dog" I wanted bit me and ran away. No book sales for me. Linda, I get the difference between the 2 of you - I'm saying that what happened to both of you is the same type of thing thats all. The problem is that anybody who writes a letter or speaks out puts themselves out there for others to poke at, whether on the forums or here. Or putting a sign on your business - same difference. Like I said. this thing has gone way past anything that makes any sense as you keep looking at the rhetoric going further and further out of sight. Can't imagine the crap thats going to be flying 2 months from now if this thing doesn't end. You don't understand because you keep comparing what happened to me to what happened to the publicity seeking opportunistic bitch. There is a world of difference between the two of us.
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Post by MattC on Sept 21, 2010 11:13:59 GMT -5
Sal, it's still not the same thing that happened to them. Big Vi exposed herself (go ahead, Gene) and said "Look at me, I speak for the fallen and for my group of sheeple". That makes her a leader of a movement. Linda, is John Q. Public joining the debate. John Q. Public should not live in fear of losing his or her job simply because he or she happens to disagree with a vile, despicable person(s). No one is going after Violet's job. I certainly am not. Not my style. But an NCGer has at least threatened to go after Linda's. And that only proves the point that NCG not only wants to keep Adams County unemployed, but they want to help add to the numbers. Your defending them, or trying to make moral equivalents, only reflects badly on you, Sal. Do they have to kill someone before you take a step back and say, "Hey, wait. We may not want a casino, but I don't agree with their tactics." You know full well that they have injected this nastiness into our community from the moment Mason Dixon announced it was going for the license. Do you find it ok for them to smear Dave Levan and Dave Latorre? I mean you must because I can't seem to recall you speaking out against it. However, it must be wrong, in your mind, for anyone to say anything bad about the very people who have trashed the Daves. The comparison I was making is that people did indeed call the college where Violet worked and did go after her job. That did happen - not just once or twice. I don't someone going after Lina's job any more than condoning them going after Viotlet's or anyone elses on either side. Sal, are you going on Violet's word on that? The same Violet who claims that any criticism of her is a threat or an attack? Or would this be the same Violet that claimed 200 people have reported me on FB, while I have not yet received one notification from FB about any reports? Or maybe it's the same Violet who made a video claiming to inform people, but was filled with nothing but blatant lies and distortions? Or have you not watched that yet either?
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 21, 2010 15:31:18 GMT -5
The comparison I was making is that people did indeed call the college where Violet worked and did go after her job. That did happen - not just once or twice. I don't someone going after Lina's job any more than condoning them going after Viotlet's or anyone elses on either side. Sal, are you going on Violet's word on that? The same Violet who claims that any criticism of her is a threat or an attack? Or would this be the same Violet that claimed 200 people have reported me on FB, while I have not yet received one notification from FB about any reports? Or maybe it's the same Violet who made a video claiming to inform people, but was filled with nothing but blatant lies and distortions? Or have you not watched that yet either? .......................The same violet who claimed vicksburg visitation was down because of the casinos
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Post by gburgbaseballmom on Sept 21, 2010 22:38:21 GMT -5
Sal, are you going on Violet's word on that? The same Violet who claims that any criticism of her is a threat or an attack? Or would this be the same Violet that claimed 200 people have reported me on FB, while I have not yet received one notification from FB about any reports? Or maybe it's the same Violet who made a video claiming to inform people, but was filled with nothing but blatant lies and distortions? Or have you not watched that yet either? The same Violet who claims that she spends more here on her little vacations than most of us pay in taxes? .......................The same violet who claimed vicksburg visitation was down because of the casinos
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Post by MattC on Sept 21, 2010 23:15:18 GMT -5
Well, I would say Rich is correct regarding the 2 casinos in Normandie. The thing is that the one in Deauville is about 68 miles from the Normany Landing area and the one in Trouville is about 96 miles from there. Put one that far from Gettysburg and I'm with you. The Hotel Du Casino on Omaha Beach is a 13 room family opperated hotel, but there is no casino in the hotel. Just an FYI But they weren't untouched by the war. According to the latest standard we must live up to as dictated by NCG, if a soldier so much as pissed on a piece of ground, it's hallowed. The whole Normandy area was swarming with troops of both sides. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deauville
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