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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 17, 2010 6:16:15 GMT -5
Someone? Really? Listen for yourselves. www.blip.tv/file/4131044Now that voice sounds very familiar to me. I'm not sure I can place it but I'm pretty sure I've heard this voice every time Susan has gone on the Durgin show. Could that be the voice of...... Dan Siderio? Does this guy have anything else to do all day or does he just sit around making calls and writing letters? Someone asked Gov. Rendell. Hysterical. Like Susan (Diane) doesn't know exactly who that is on the phone. Hell, she was probably sitting next to him at the time. This woman is a world class liar. Sounds to me like "someone" needs to start using auto tone when making these calls if they want us to believe it's "someone" other than the same 6-8 people NCG always has calling in to shows and writing letters. You can run and tell that, homeboy.
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Post by Fire Marshal Bill on Sept 17, 2010 6:50:09 GMT -5
Did I understand the Governor to say that he has no more influence on this issue than any other citizen? Well not in those words but what I heard.
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 17, 2010 8:54:49 GMT -5
well what I think is even better is that back a few months ago rendell was the biggest piece of shit in the state to susy and NCG now he's their hero........
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Post by lifesaver on Sept 17, 2010 10:02:44 GMT -5
Someone? Really? Listen for yourselves. www.blip.tv/file/4131044Now that voice sounds very familiar to me. I'm not sure I can place it but I'm pretty sure I've heard this voice every time Susan has gone on the Durgin show. Could that be the voice of...... Dan Siderio? Does this guy have anything else to do all day or does he just sit around making calls and writing letters? Someone asked Gov. Rendell. Hysterical. Like Susan (Diane) doesn't know exactly who that is on the phone. Hell, she was probably sitting next to him at the time. This woman is a world class liar. Sounds to me like "someone" needs to start using auto tone when making these calls if they want us to believe it's "someone" other than the same 6-8 people NCG always has calling in to shows and writing letters. You can run and tell that, homeboy. You're on the air Dan......yep, it was him. Another clue was he had to be prompted to get to the point.
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Post by SFP on Sept 17, 2010 10:13:47 GMT -5
Meanwhile, while you are riveted on who asked the question, whats really important is what the governor said regarding a casino in Gettysburg. It seems like even he gets it.
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Post by dspitz17325 on Sept 17, 2010 10:17:09 GMT -5
The Criminal/ worst Governor this state has ever had , known as Fast Eddie just like so many others opinion doesn't matter because HE AS WELL AS THE OTHERS DON'T LIVE HERE so their opinions are worth as much as a steaming pile of dog excrement .
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Post by SFP on Sept 17, 2010 10:22:39 GMT -5
The Criminal/ worst Governor this state has ever had , known as Fast Eddie just like so many others opinion doesn't matter because HE AS WELL AS THE OTHERS DON'T LIVE HERE so their opinions are worth as much as a steaming pile of dog excrement . But Spitz, none of the board members live here either.
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Post by dspitz17325 on Sept 17, 2010 10:28:40 GMT -5
Meanwhile, while you are riveted on who asked the question, whats really important is what the governor said regarding a casino in Gettysburg. It seems like even he gets it. Yes but he has been known to love it when the people of this state are jobless and so many times it's his fault just ask the state workers he fired just so he could have his way , i am just wondering who's greasing his fat palms this time .the question has never been is this a bad place to build it but at what cost to the local job market oh heck there is no job market with unemployment at 9.2 % and that number is about to soar when all the road construction comes to a grinding halt in mid October .You know i don't see one person saying the casino is bad i think i will open a factory here instead and that's because than the NCG people will open fire on that saying the same thing .
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Post by MattC on Sept 17, 2010 10:34:22 GMT -5
Someone? Really? Listen for yourselves. www.blip.tv/file/4131044Now that voice sounds very familiar to me. I'm not sure I can place it but I'm pretty sure I've heard this voice every time Susan has gone on the Durgin show. Could that be the voice of...... Dan Siderio? Does this guy have anything else to do all day or does he just sit around making calls and writing letters? Someone asked Gov. Rendell. Hysterical. Like Susan (Diane) doesn't know exactly who that is on the phone. Hell, she was probably sitting next to him at the time. This woman is a world class liar. Sounds to me like "someone" needs to start using auto tone when making these calls if they want us to believe it's "someone" other than the same 6-8 people NCG always has calling in to shows and writing letters. You can run and tell that, homeboy. what a great idea. how funny would that be for a bit if they use auto-tune to disguise their voice because the shows they call are hip to tehir jive and have banned them for flooding the lines?
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Post by MattC on Sept 17, 2010 10:39:37 GMT -5
The Criminal/ worst Governor this state has ever had , known as Fast Eddie just like so many others opinion doesn't matter because HE AS WELL AS THE OTHERS DON'T LIVE HERE so their opinions are worth as much as a steaming pile of dog excrement . But Spitz, none of the board members live here either. that's not a good argument because they are empowered by the state to have an opinion on the matter. it's bad enough that the state is the one who decides what locals can do with legal businesses, but it's what we have to live with. We do NOT have to live with carpet baggers like Big Vi telling us where the bear shit in the buckwheat.
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Post by MattC on Sept 17, 2010 10:40:16 GMT -5
p.s. i don't think i used that expression exactly the way it's meant to be, but i had to.
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 17, 2010 12:54:45 GMT -5
Meanwhile, while you are riveted on who asked the question, whats really important is what the governor said regarding a casino in Gettysburg. It seems like even he gets it. Dodge.
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Post by Boss on Sept 17, 2010 13:30:44 GMT -5
I have heard this a time or two now and unfortunately it has become apparent that Rendell was cut of mid sentience. and based on the Bill Kearney on the right hand side it makes me wonder if it was ended short for the desired effect. we all know the No side is notorious for twisting thing to fit their case.
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Post by SFP on Sept 17, 2010 13:37:56 GMT -5
No Dodge Rainier - it was Dan Siderio FYI - It reads about the way it sounds, except you can't see the facial expressions here. Point is he said what he said. PCN Call in September 16, 2010 7 PM to 8 PM transcribed from www.blip.tv/file/4131044DAN SIDERIO: Governor Rendell, I'd like to ask you a question about the casino that was proposed near the town of Gettysburg and the battlefield in 2006. At that time the casino was a mile and a quarter from the battlefield, and the Pennsylvania Gaming Control Board denied the license and one of the reasons they gave was it was too close to the battlefield. You made a statement in 2006, that you were opposed to this casino because you said it was too close to a historic site and now another casino is proposed in Gettysburg a half mile from the battlefield and newspaper editorials all over the nation have condemned this location, including three in the past few months from the Philadelphia Inquirer your old home town, and the National Commander of the American Legion which is the largest veterans organization in the country PCN interrupts: caller can you get to your point. DAN SIDERIO:: has called a casino near Gettysburg a national disgrace. PCN: Ok Governor do you want to respond. GOVERNOR RENDELL: Well I'm still opposed to it. But, the caller has to understand, and all of our viewers have to understand, I don't have a vote. And we created the Casino control commission in a way that they were immune from the influence of elected officials including the Governor. I made that statement in '06 publicly and I've made it again a number of times. Ahh ahh, David LeVan, who is the main proponent of this is a good friend of mine was a big contributor to my campaigns, and I love David, but I just think it's the wrong place for a casino for the reasons that the our caller enunciated.
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Post by Alex Oreilly on Sept 17, 2010 15:24:07 GMT -5
I called the Governor's Office to talk to the Press Secretary, but he was busy so I left a message with the girl that answered the phone and told her that I did not like the comment the Governor made last night and that the caller was the same caller a few months ago when the Governor was at the Gettysburg Hotel, when he said it was not that bad of an idea.
I also said that legally he should not be doing that, if he wanted his chance to speak he should have spoke at the hearings.
I encourage everyone to call and ask for the Governor to recant his statement.
The phone number is 1-717-787-2500.
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 17, 2010 15:29:23 GMT -5
all this arguing back and forth..........whats any of it matter? This is the hands of the pgcb now.
I did do my part and called though!
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 17, 2010 15:42:36 GMT -5
No Dodge Rainier - it was Dan Siderio And I'm supposed to believe Susan didn't know that? I knew who it was and I've never been within 20 feet of the man. If you don't see what she's doing, if you don't see the difference between saying Dan (Mr. I call every show and endlessly write letters to every paper) Siderio called into talk to the Governor and "someone" randomly called in you are hopeless. Her "someone" is her purposefully giving the impression this is some other random concerned citizen against the casino instead of one of the 12 visible local NCG people that everyone is sick and tired of hearing from. Maybe she even realizes that at this point a call from a stranger carries more weight and is more credible to the public than a call from your average standard bearing NCG member.
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Post by SFP on Sept 17, 2010 19:53:14 GMT -5
No Dodge Rainier - it was Dan Siderio And I'm supposed to believe Susan didn't know that? I knew who it was and I've never been within 20 feet of the man. If you don't see what she's doing, if you don't see the difference between saying Dan (Mr. I call every show and endlessly write letters to every paper) Siderio called into talk to the Governor and "someone" randomly called in you are hopeless. Her "someone" is her purposefully giving the impression this is some other random concerned citizen against the casino instead of one of the 12 visible local NCG people that everyone is sick and tired of hearing from. Maybe she even realizes that at this point a call from a stranger carries more weight and is more credible to the public than a call from your average standard bearing NCG member. Believe what you want. I'll point this out again, and maybe its me, but you guys focus on lot of things that don't mean a heck of a lot in the scheme of things except to you. You ignore the merits or non merits of whatever the message is and go after the messenger. Nobody but you cares who the caller is - but people will listen to what Rendell has to say. Thats the rub. You worry about Dan, or Susan or Violet and go well out of your way to demonize them but their message is what is getting through, and you still go at the messenger. Except for you guys, and those of us involved in this issue, nobody knows or cares about who they are. Same as you keep bringing up the fact that the casino is not being built, but going in a building thats already there so its not something new. Nobody cares about the building, its the fact that its a CASINO going into the building that matters. It can be underground and out of sight, but its still a casino being where its at thats the issue. You can dress it up any way you want, but it still is what it is, a casino next to the battlefield. No big deal to you, but to a lot of others, thats the issue. Matt's videos about Violet. I know they play well with you guys, but if he put half that effort to play to what you consider the positive reasons for a casino to be here, how many more supporters might you have going for you? For as many people that will complain about the Governor's remarks about the casino, I can bet that at least as many are calling to applaud his remarks. Nothing new, he made a similar comment the last go around saying it should not be at Gettysburg - he just came out and reinforced what he said before. He did cover himself by saying he doesn't have a vote, but he does have an opinion. I give him credit for not ducking it like some of the others out there So you can keep doting on the "someone", but what really matters is what Rendell said - and like it or not, he still is "someone" who gets attention.
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 17, 2010 20:40:03 GMT -5
[ Believe what you want. I'll point this out again, and maybe its me, but you guys focus on lot of things that don't mean a heck of a lot in the scheme of things except to you. . Well aren't you and your friends exactly the same? calling coke.....making sure you point out how far the casinos are from normandy......making up out right lies about how many showed up for the PGCB meeting....... Correct me if I am wrong but didn't rendell have something a little differnt to say earlier this year about the casino? Also wasn't NCG up in arms over it. I seem to remeber he being everything but a white man not long ago with allot of the members in your group. Now he's your best buddy and people should all listen to him because he said what you wanted him to. [You worry about Dan, or Susan or Violet and go well out of your way to demonize them but their message is what is getting through, and you still go at the messenger. Except for you guys, and those of us involved in this issue, nobody knows or cares about who they are.. Thats just it again you don't get it for allot of us its not as much about the casino as is it is Violet, susan and dan and yea thanks to people like me, venter, pro casino, niles and all of boroughvent people around here do know and care about susy and violet. I can tell you right now there are people who are not involved in this at all but can not stand violet and company easpecially violet. She has rubbed quite a few local people the wrong way. I've had quiet a few converstations with people around here that ended with them saying stuff like " she needs to keep her nose outta our business and stay in her own state" she was probably one of the pros biggest help from your side she pissed allot of people in thsi area off. Tim Carnahan who is against this casino made statements to me many times on facebook about him not being apart of your group because of the out right lies and mis information your side put out.
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 17, 2010 21:11:14 GMT -5
Who believes any message that comes from someone who has been caught lying so many times in so many ways. If the messenger is a liar then what are the odds that anyone other than the true believers like yourself will find any truth in the message? I am attacking the message sfp. My point is that if the source is a known liar, one who is constantly and continuously being exposed as such, then what does that say about the message? Better yet, who's buying it? Ferris?
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Post by SFP on Sept 18, 2010 0:35:18 GMT -5
See, we can go on about this all night and we won't get anywhere - you say this, I say that. But I'm working tomorrow morning, so I'm about done for awhile.
Glad you're taking credit for making all the noise about Violet, SSP and Dan. I know you don't care, but I wonder how impressed those that really want the casino will be if this casino thing does go down in flames cause you were more interested "not as much about the casino as is it is Violet, susan and dan". But I will say that the Coke deal just illustrates another situation of impressions being created that were not quite true, which was that the National corporate office was supporting the casino. When in fact they had not. If they did, then they would not have written a letter saying they did not endorse it.
Regarding Ferris? I guess we'll know if he and the others impressed the PGCB about the end of the year. May not have impressed you, but it is an impressive video.
And then again Rendell still said what he did as well.
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Post by wiseoldman on Sept 18, 2010 1:17:56 GMT -5
SFP- I think you people ( The paddocks, Siddarios? and any other no casino idiot) are just plane blind! Thats right! gets some dam glasses. We need the jobs and tax money. The Mrs. passed away 2 months ago, I have my pension, my health is poor and the dam tax assessment has me all out of sorts. I have a hearing on my assessment, but, dam it all, this casino and all of the other business that may come in will help with jobs and tax relief. This casino and business stuff is not on the battlefield, now you stop it!!!! and all you protesters and stuff. why don't you people start protesting this dam tax increase and that dam president and his cronies!!! hell if we dont get this casino, your and my taxes will go up and people will loss jobs!!! What in the sam hell is with you people!!!
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Post by dspitz17325 on Sept 18, 2010 7:22:40 GMT -5
The Criminal/ worst Governor this state has ever had , known as Fast Eddie just like so many others opinion doesn't matter because HE AS WELL AS THE OTHERS DON'T LIVE HERE so their opinions are worth as much as a steaming pile of dog excrement . But Spitz, none of the board members live here either. Would NCG be happy if the board was from this area considering there is a bit more PRO'S than NO'S this time around and with that said could either side say it was fair if they were from here .
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 18, 2010 7:44:45 GMT -5
We need the jobs and tax money. ...................................................... I have a hearing on my assessment, but, dam it all, this casino and all of the other business that may come in will help with jobs and tax relief.......................................................................why don't you people start protesting this dam tax increase and that dam president and his cronies!!! hell if we dont get this casino, your and my taxes will go up and people will loss jobs!!! What in the sam hell is with you people!!! Sir every thing you said here is 100% correct. The reason these NCG people are not upset about the tax situation is because most of them are well off or do well enough for themselves they do not need to worry. To them they could care less about and if you can pay your taxes. All of their speil about being concerned about addicts and senior citizens is just that SPEIL all they really want is to remain in their elitist ways and keep whom and what they want out and let who want in.
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Post by anonymous on Sept 18, 2010 9:20:43 GMT -5
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