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Post by lifesaver on Aug 22, 2011 15:19:56 GMT -5
See, lifesaver, I have no pride. No FT, you stumbled. But you stood up, brushed yourself off, maybe looked a little embarrassed, and moved on with your head held high. That's the FT I know. Glad you are back!
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Post by HoneyBadger on Aug 23, 2011 15:06:35 GMT -5
See, lifesaver, I have no pride. No FT, you stumbled. But you stood up, brushed yourself off, maybe looked a little embarrassed, and moved on with your head held high. That's the FT I know. Glad you are back! I stumble all of the time and fall frequently too. No big deal. Want to know what ticks me off? I deleted all of my messages from friends. Dumb, dumb, dumb.
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Post by dspitz17325 on Aug 23, 2011 17:29:41 GMT -5
what the hell? FT, I hope you decide to come back. Fwiw, you should view several speeches from Ron, not just one before you make up your mind about him. A few years ago, I watched him state that abortion rights should be a states issue and he had no intention of imposing her personal beliefs in that regard. redlock - I have a history of screwing things up. I was frustrated and out of sorts about something which had nothing to do with BV so I punished myself by wiping out my identity. Not one of the smarter things I've ever done but there it is. It took over 4 years to be FT and I've erased her. Thomas Wolfe said "you can't go home again" and I've burned my bridges. Thanks for the kind words about returning. I have watched a few speeches and read more about Ron Paul. Compared to the lunatic Perry Mr. Paul looks like gold to me. I've never minded admitting when I'm wrong. I was wrong to delete, I was wrong about Ron Paul and I was wrong to take out my frustrations on BV. What's done is done. FT is dead. Bury her and move one. See, lifesaver, I have no pride. By the way, my brother registered me. I was too dumb to do that correctly. You need to put something on that black eye you keep giving yourself .
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Post by HoneyBadger on Aug 23, 2011 18:34:20 GMT -5
redlock - I have a history of screwing things up. I was frustrated and out of sorts about something which had nothing to do with BV so I punished myself by wiping out my identity. Not one of the smarter things I've ever done but there it is. It took over 4 years to be FT and I've erased her. Thomas Wolfe said "you can't go home again" and I've burned my bridges. Thanks for the kind words about returning. I have watched a few speeches and read more about Ron Paul. Compared to the lunatic Perry Mr. Paul looks like gold to me. I've never minded admitting when I'm wrong. I was wrong to delete, I was wrong about Ron Paul and I was wrong to take out my frustrations on BV. What's done is done. FT is dead. Bury her and move one. See, lifesaver, I have no pride. By the way, my brother registered me. I was too dumb to do that correctly. You need to put something on that black eye you keep giving yourself . What makes you think that I'm doing it to myself? Maybe I have a few secrets no one knows about.
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 1, 2011 7:14:17 GMT -5
Decent feature story on Dr. Paul in this week's Time.
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Post by MattC on Sept 2, 2011 8:54:28 GMT -5
i think after today's news about zero (0) jobs created in August, the republicans can run a baboon and win. this guy is toast...finally
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 13, 2011 13:30:16 GMT -5
"The company was Merck, and it was a $5,000 contribution that I had received from them. I raise about $30 million, and if you're saying that I can be bought for $5,000, I'm offended." Gov. Perry
Nice job jagoff.
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Post by poindexter on Sept 15, 2011 16:05:30 GMT -5
Decent feature story on Dr. Paul in this week's Time. I believe I heard Mr. Paul indicate that we don't need the FAA. Does he really believe that the aviation industry should police itself?
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Post by redlock on Sept 15, 2011 17:26:02 GMT -5
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Post by poindexter on Sept 15, 2011 19:35:41 GMT -5
An interesting reference Redlock! Nav Canada was formed back in the 90's from stakeholders who paid the government $1.5 billion. From what I know, Nav Canada has an excellent safety record and a less than stellar financial record. They had to get government intervention to write-off $164 million in losses due to some bad investing. The problem I see with that model is the management structure: “As a non-share capital corporation, Nav Canada has no shareholders. The company is governed by a 15 member board of directors representing the four stakeholder groups that founded Nav Canada. The four stakeholders appoint 10 directors. These 10 directors then elect four independent directors, with no ties to the stakeholder groups. Those 14 directors then appoint the president and chief executive officer who becomes the 15th board member. This structure ensures that the interests of individual stakeholders do not predominate and no member group could exert undue influence over the remainder of the board. To further ensure that the interests of Nav Canada are served, these board members cannot be active employees or members of airlines, unions, or government.”It's hard for me to imagine our current corporate mindset allowing such a balanced approach to management. We also have an order of magnitude more aviation businesses; manufacturers of aircraft, navigation equipment, and safety systems, as well as hundreds of major and regional carriers. A very interesting model and one that deserves discussion. And discussion is what I need to see before I can give any credence to these calls for downsizing government by simply eliminating entire departments. I've heard calls to eliminate the Departments of Education, Environmental Protection, Treasury, Commerce, and others. Major institutions like the FAA, Post Office, and ATF are on these Tea Person lists as well. Thanks for the info Redlock. And maybe we could look at the Canadian health care system too??
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Post by poindexter on Sept 15, 2011 19:37:01 GMT -5
i think after today's news about zero (0) jobs created in August, the republicans can run a baboon and win. this guy is toast...finally Looks like they're working real hard on that baboon idea there Matt...
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 15, 2011 21:23:07 GMT -5
Decent feature story on Dr. Paul in this week's Time. I believe I heard Mr. Paul indicate that we don't need the FAA. Does he really believe that the aviation industry should police itself? sounds like you're getting your Ron Paul talking points from those cable news networks. That's always how they report it. It's always Ron Paul wants to get rid of FEMA, or the FAA, or the Department of Education, end of discussion. In reality that's just the start of the discussion. The debate is whether the federal government is better suited to handle these things than states or private enterprise and if the federal government even has a proper mandate to engage in these activities .
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Post by poindexter on Sept 15, 2011 21:53:52 GMT -5
I believe I heard Mr. Paul indicate that we don't need the FAA. Does he really believe that the aviation industry should police itself? sounds like you're getting your Ron Paul talking points from those cable news networks. That's always how they report it. It's always Ron Paul wants to get rid of FEMA, or the FAA, or the Department of Education, end of discussion. In reality that's just the start of the discussion. The debate is whether the federal government is better suited to handle these things than states or private enterprise and if the federal government even has a proper mandate to engage in these activities . RW I understand what you are saying. Bear in mind that if I limited my news intake to those cable networks I complain about I wouldn't hear very much about Ron Paul would I? I wonder if they report those sound-bites because that's all they can get, or is there detail under the talking point. Has Dr. Paul put out a plan for replacing the FCC or any of these other government entities he feels should be abolished? Does he have a "platform" somewhere on-line that I could study for the details? Post a link for those of us too lazy to google and forgive me if you already have and I missed it. A few things I worry about when we talk about the Fed being this monster that usurps states rights. If we trim the Fed down and tell the states it's your baby, how will things be standardized across states to the degree they are now? Won't the states be incentivized to compete for everything (industry, tourism, investment, etc.) by developing the laxest and/or strictest standards for this and that? Where will the states get the money to take on these new responsibilities? Will our Fed taxes go way down and our State taxes skyrocket? As we look at the PA State Legislature do we feel confident in their ability to take on these responsibilities any more than we do the Fed? As a Commonwealth with the ridiculously convoluted system of governance that we have wont we be at a disadvantage? If you know of publications or studies that deal with these types of details please share them with me. And thanks for making me excercise my brain cells...Lord knows they need it!
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 16, 2011 5:57:47 GMT -5
RW I understand what you are saying. Bear in mind that if I limited my news intake to those cable networks I complain about I wouldn't hear very much about Ron Paul would I? I wonder if they report those sound-bites because that's all they can get, or is there detail under the talking point. Has Dr. Paul put out a plan for replacing the FCC or any of these other government entities he feels should be abolished? Does he have a "platform" somewhere on-line that I could study for the details? Post a link for those of us too lazy to google and forgive me if you already have and I missed it. ronpaul.com is a pretty good source but if you really want to get into the meat of how he plans to achieve his goals you have to read his books. I couldn't even give you a cursory explanation in the space provided here They won't, nor do they need to be. The federal philosophy of one size fits all is detrimental to the states. How about federal agencies prosecuting people for selling marijuana in states where it's legal? Why? Maybe, but in my view competition is good. Besides they still have to act on the will of the people they serve and I have no problem letting the people of each state make those decisions for themselves. What's right for Alaska may not be what's New Hampshire. The Federal government does not take that into consideration First the states would need to decide if they even want to take on some of those responsibilities and that can be determined by voters in referenda Not necessarily because states may not decide to get involved in the issues the fed is involved in. At worst you'd see your overall tax burden remain the same but you would actually see you tax dollars at work in your own state, county, and town for a change. I think people would be more involved in state politics if they decisions of their state legislators had more of a direct impact on their lives. If the state actually had more responsibilities I guarantee you'd see a much more informed and involved public. I also feel you'd have a much more receptive state government if they had more responsibility. State legislator are actually visible in the communities they represent. This makes a huge difference. How often do you ever see your federal reps in your community? They all live in Washington and this contributes to the huge problem of them being totally disconnected from the realities of their own constituents. States have the right to change their constitutions as they see fit and if the people support those changes. We are not powerless to make changes when needed
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Post by SpellChecker on Sept 25, 2011 12:15:21 GMT -5
I didn't know there were so many RP supporters here. I should read this forum more often
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Post by paulkellett on Sept 26, 2011 14:01:40 GMT -5
Well, Dr. Paul is a Gettysburg College Graduate, after all.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Sept 26, 2011 18:56:20 GMT -5
Well, Dr. Paul is a Gettysburg College Graduate, after all. Well whoop-de-doop-de-doo. Wonder why the college isn't singing that song? Maybe they're waiting until after the election.
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Post by orrtannaoracle on Sept 27, 2011 5:13:15 GMT -5
How often do you ever see your federal reps in your community? They all live in Washington and this contributes to the huge problem of them being totally disconnected from the realities of their own constituents. Actually, in Todd Platts' case, this is not true. He commutes to DC when the House is in session. However one could argue that after ~20 years of service, both as a majority and minority member, he is clearly not part of the answer as the country has slipped dramatically during his tenure. Given his service in the PA House prior to Congress, he has not worked a "real" job in his adult life after the age of about 25 and his completion of law school. His backstory unfortunately is all too typical for our elected reps, esp. when residing in a one-party dominant district. If George Washington or Abraham Lincoln were registered Democrats in Adams County, they couldn't win an election. How long did we have to live with Maitland, a decade? Ugh.
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 27, 2011 8:23:10 GMT -5
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Post by orrtannaoracle on Sept 27, 2011 9:20:13 GMT -5
How often do you ever see your federal reps in your community? They all live in Washington and this contributes to the huge problem of them being totally disconnected from the realities of their own constituents. Actually, in Todd Platts' case, this is not true. He commutes to DC when the House is in session. However one could argue that after ~20 years of service, both as a majority and minority member, he is clearly not part of the answer as the country has slipped dramatically during his tenure. Given his service in the PA House prior to Congress, he has not worked a "real" job in his adult life after the age of about 25 and his completion of law school. His backstory unfortunately is all too typical for our elected reps, esp. when residing in a one-party dominant district. If George Washington or Abraham Lincoln were registered Democrats in Adams County, they couldn't win an election. How long did we have to live with Maitland, a decade? Ugh. Just read an article from last weekend's edition of USA Today. Platts (as a former state legislator), along with six other PA Congressmen, collects state pension payments while receiving $175K/year to represent us in DC. Another GOP PA congressman, Joe Pitts, has collected since 1997 $1.3M in state pension payments while also receiving $2.3M as a Congressman. A tidy ~$250K/year. He sure doesn't feel our economic pain. Obscene is the kindest word I can think of for the moment. Not to mention their over-the-top medical insurance plan for which they probably pay little or nothing at all.
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Post by redlock on Sept 27, 2011 11:16:14 GMT -5
Actually, in Todd Platts' case, this is not true. He commutes to DC when the House is in session. However one could argue that after ~20 years of service, both as a majority and minority member, he is clearly not part of the answer as the country has slipped dramatically during his tenure. Given his service in the PA House prior to Congress, he has not worked a "real" job in his adult life after the age of about 25 and his completion of law school. His backstory unfortunately is all too typical for our elected reps, esp. when residing in a one-party dominant district. If George Washington or Abraham Lincoln were registered Democrats in Adams County, they couldn't win an election. How long did we have to live with Maitland, a decade? Ugh. Just read an article from last weekend's edition of USA Today. Platts (as a former state legislator), along with six other PA Congressmen, collects state pension payments while receiving $175K/year to represent us in DC. Another GOP PA congressman, Joe Pitts, has collected since 1997 $1.3M in state pension payments while also receiving $2.3M as a Congressman. A tidy ~$250K/year. He sure doesn't feel our economic pain. Obscene is the kindest word I can think of for the moment. Not to mention their over-the-top medical insurance plan for which they probably pay little or nothing at all. So, GOP reps are the only ones that collect these pensions and other 'perks'?
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Post by orrtannaoracle on Sept 27, 2011 17:55:25 GMT -5
I never said that. Article mentioned 7 PA Congressmen collecting PA pensions - two of them are Donkeys. Pitts was the major offender apparently, details not supplied for the others. You can do the homework if you want to pursue it.
If you follow my comments over time, you would know that I have suggested that all sitting state and Federal reps should be replaced. Their dedication to sanctioned graft having been given the blessing of SCOTUS means we should all keep the lubricant handy.
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Post by redlock on Sept 27, 2011 20:47:45 GMT -5
I never said that. Article mentioned 7 PA Congressmen collecting PA pensions - two of them are Donkeys. Pitts was the major offender apparently, details not supplied for the others. You can do the homework if you want to pursue it. If you follow my comments over time, you would know that I have suggested that all sitting state and Federal reps should be replaced. Their dedication to sanctioned graft having been given the blessing of SCOTUS means we should all keep the lubricant handy. I'm just giving you a little heat. Your post didn't mention any donkeys though. Just trying to keep you "honest". I feel the same way as you. Vote them all out and I think there should be term limits as well as pension limits. For the record, I'm a registered Libertarian.
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Sept 28, 2011 7:41:32 GMT -5
Back to the Republican field.....
From The Hill
When Rick Perry drops out: Ron Paul could be second place, Republicans enter the Wild West By Brent Budowsky - 09/26/11 09:55 AM ET
I wrote in August that Rick Perry will self- destruct within 30 days. His prospects for the presidency were as phony as the fantasy of a two-person race was false. Perry is a phony conservative who is not conservative. He is a pay-for-play politician who gobbled up Obama stimulus like a hound dog eating a bone, and created oceans of new government jobs in Texas while his big donors mysteriously received big government contracts. The Texas deficit ballooned and the Texas jobless rate doubled on Rick Perry's watch.
I will not speculate about the reasons for Rick Perry' s strange, weird and incoherent debate performance. Major new negative stories about Perry will soon emerge in the media. Trust me. Perry will drop out long before the year ends. If he dropped out today Ron Paul could well be in second place. Will pundits say it is a two-man race between Romney and Paul?
This is the most unpredicable campaign in many years. One insider recently asserted that if the election were held today Obama would certainly lose. Nonsense. Obama would cream Perry. I laughed when media pundits lauded the buffoon Donald Trump for a month as the great Republican hope.
This notion that the GOP contest was a two-man race was a mirage and pure pundit malpractice from the beginning.
Another mirage is Chris Christie, a not-very- popular freshman governor with zero national experience who could easily be defeated for reelection by dynamic Democratic Mayor Cory Booker.
Sarah Palin could jump in, but if she did, her motive would be to prevent any other Republican from winning. Obama would clean Palin's clock. So what next?
Mitt Romney is the Tom Dewey of 2012. He is qualified, presidential — and distrusted by virtually everyone. Like Dewey he looks like the plastic man on the wedding cake. He could be elected. Remember, Dewey almost won in 1948, but if Obama plays Truman I suspect he beats Mitt, but I could be wrong.
When Perry drops out, Ron Paul could be in second place. It could be a magical moment for Ron Paul, and perhaps Herman Cain, for a clean shot at second place. Let’s see what they do with it. Both Paul and Cain deserve far more respect from the major media. This is not a Soviet campaign where Pravda-like pundits treat certain candidates as though they do not exist.
If Jon Huntsman moves above the 10 percent he recently polled in New Hampshire, he becomes very serious. If not, he drops out by December and endorses Mitt.
The Republican battle is the exact opposite of a two-person race and always has been. It is wide open like the Wild West. The big question is who emerges as the leading conservative opponent to Romney, and whether Romney can make the leap to be trusted as a credible president.
Forget Chris Christie. The man to watch is Mitch Daniels, governor of Indiana. Daniels is trusted by all factions of the party, is highly qualified, and in my view has the best chance of defeating Obama. I have said it before. Remember where you heard it.
Rick Perry is toast. The two-man race is dead. The Republicans have entered the Wild West without Perry as a big-time player.
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Oct 12, 2011 8:37:33 GMT -5
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