Concerned Citizens of Cumberland Township

[Spin Doctor]

The "so called" Concerned Citizens of Cumberland Twp are being exposed.

Spokesman Al Ferranto acknowledged in the newspaper today that his group does not hold meetings. So there's virtually no way to get into his group, if you live in Cumberland and have concerns.

They're simply a branch of No Casino Gettysburg. All you need to do is look at the recent photos pasted on the NCG Facebook page, of the event in the Capitol. Big Al is there in the rotunda, along with several of his buddies.

[Javier Miguel Vazquez III]

Sept 29, 2010 10:39:56 GMT -5 Spin Doctor said:

They're simply a branch of No Casino Gettysburg. All you need to do is look at the recent photos pasted on the NCG Facebook page, of the event in the Capitol. Big Al is there in the rotunda, along with several of his buddies.

No, no, no, that's misleading.

Al Ferranto testified before the Gambing Board that his group is not an anti-casino group, regardless of the fact that his "members" show up in No Casino Gettysbrug photos.

[HoneyBadger]

Sept 29, 2010 14:21:47 GMT -5 Javier Miguel Vazquez III said:

Sept 29, 2010 10:39:56 GMT -5 Spin Doctor said:

They're simply a branch of No Casino Gettysburg. All you need to do is look at the recent photos pasted on the NCG Facebook page, of the event in the Capitol. Big Al is there in the rotunda, along with several of his buddies.

No, no, no, that's misleading.

Al Ferranto testified before the Gambing Board that his group is not an anti-casino group, regardless of the fact that his "members" show up in No Casino Gettysbrug photos.

Yeah and an albino skunk frequently doesn't have a stripe but it still stinks.

[SpellChecker]

heres the information I found about their web site

It's owned by:

Name: dale molina
Address: po box 3413
Gettysburg pa 17325
Phone:[phone]
Email: [e-mail]

This really suprised me because I totaly expected it be owned by the cwpt or blocked out lke the NCG site.

[jhunter]

classic example of a commuity 'group' that forms for one primary reason, the casino, and wont take new 'members' unless they agree with that stance.

thanks to Debbie Golden, we now know that even if we lived in cumberland township, we wouldnt be allowed to join the group, since it does not hold meetings.

[jhunter]

i have emailed Ferranto six times in the past seven days and have not received a response.

[Javier Miguel Vazquez III]

Lets start a new group, The Unconcerned Citizens of Cumberland Township.

[Venter]

"Concerned Citizens of Cumberland Township"

If you look closely, you'll figure it out.
Instead of the anagram CCCT, it can also read:
CONCOCT

I think that fits them better

[Fire Marshal Bill]

Oct 6, 2010 8:09:44 GMT -5 Javier Miguel Vazquez III said:

Lets start a new group, The Unconcerned Citizens of Cumberland Township.

I don't live in Cumberland Township, but what about Citizens Concerned about Concerned Citizens of Cumberland Township?

[hearme]

I like that Venter, seems more fitting.

Is there anymore Caring Hearts Ambulance can help with all this?

[lifesaver]

I encourage everyone who has strong opinions on this or any other matter to begin to attend the township meetings in whatever township you may reside in. I think you will find that there are "concerned" citizens in every township who show up at every meeting to complain about something, whether they know what they are talking about or not. If you disagree with these yahoos show up and voice your support for your local supervisors and the thankless job they do, every day (not just one or two days a month as some naysayers seem to think).
I also encourage everyone, especially if you have children in the district, to attend the school board meetings and get involved with the PTO at your local school.
If some of you are local you may remember the reconfiguration of the elementary schools which resulted in students going to Lincoln Elementary for grades 4-5. At the time I was vehemently opposed to this reconfiguration. I attended school board meetings, wrote letters to the editor etc. My son would have been the first class to attend this school, I didn't want him exposed to the "city" (I know that sounds dumb) atmosphere of Gettysburg schools at his young age. The proposal was voted down once, due to opposition by the public, but was approved the second time around. Many screamed and stomped their feet and said they would pull their kids out of school, but few, did (does any of this sound familiar about another topic BTW) Instead, I decided to get involved and had input on the new school. It helped that there was also the best person around to be the principal for the school. It turned out that I was wrong. The Lincoln School experience was one of the best in my son's school experience. Now there is talk of moving things back to the way they were. Is this the best move? Will these great experiences follow these students back to their respective elementary schools. I really hope that the board looks long and hard at this issue, and takes into consideration what happened the last time around. Then, maybe I should take my own advice and start attending school board meetings again?

[Mr Blonde]

Oct 11, 2010 10:33:20 GMT -5 lifesaver said:

If some of you are local you may remember the reconfiguration of the elementary schools which resulted in students going to Lincoln Elementary for grades 4-5. At the time I was vehemently opposed to this reconfiguration. I attended school board meetings, wrote letters to the editor etc. My son would have been the first class to attend this school, I didn't want him exposed to the "city" (I know that sounds dumb) atmosphere of Gettysburg schools at his young age. The proposal was voted down once, due to opposition by the public, but was approved the second time around. Many screamed and stomped their feet and said they would pull their kids out of school, but few, did (does any of this sound familiar about another topic BTW) Instead, I decided to get involved and had input on the new school. It helped that there was also the best person around to be the principal for the school. It turned out that I was wrong. The Lincoln School experience was one of the best in my son's school experience. Now there is talk of moving things back to the way they were. Is this the best move? Will these great experiences follow these students back to their respective elementary schools. I really hope that the board looks long and hard at this issue, and takes into consideration what happened the last time around. Then, maybe I should take my own advice and start attending school board meetings again?

I don't want to derail the thread, but........

The move back to the way it was makes sense for the district and the families of students. The Middle School is a giant money sucking vacuum, it is very old and is need of a major renovation or razing. By moving the 4-5 graders back into the elementary schools (like it was) and then moving the 6-8 graders over to Lincoln would allow the district to tear down the middle school and only add 1-2 classrooms at each elementary school. That is HUGE cost saving over renovating that building, or building a new one.

I would welcome the move with open arms as a parent of elementary age school children. My concerns are the same as yours were, but I've heard these concerns turn in to realities in talking with parents of children that moved from and elementary school to Lincoln, both this year and last year. I would much rather my children stay in the comfort of an elementary school at that age.

[lifesaver]

Oct 11, 2010 15:55:30 GMT -5 Mr Blonde said:

Oct 11, 2010 10:33:20 GMT -5 lifesaver said:

If some of you are local you may remember the reconfiguration of the elementary schools which resulted in students going to Lincoln Elementary for grades 4-5. At the time I was vehemently opposed to this reconfiguration. I attended school board meetings, wrote letters to the editor etc. My son would have been the first class to attend this school, I didn't want him exposed to the "city" (I know that sounds dumb) atmosphere of Gettysburg schools at his young age. The proposal was voted down once, due to opposition by the public, but was approved the second time around. Many screamed and stomped their feet and said they would pull their kids out of school, but few, did (does any of this sound familiar about another topic BTW) Instead, I decided to get involved and had input on the new school. It helped that there was also the best person around to be the principal for the school. It turned out that I was wrong. The Lincoln School experience was one of the best in my son's school experience. Now there is talk of moving things back to the way they were. Is this the best move? Will these great experiences follow these students back to their respective elementary schools. I really hope that the board looks long and hard at this issue, and takes into consideration what happened the last time around. Then, maybe I should take my own advice and start attending school board meetings again?

I don't want to derail the thread, but........

The move back to the way it was makes sense for the district and the families of students. The Middle School is a giant money sucking vacuum, it is very old and is need of a major renovation or razing. By moving the 4-5 graders back into the elementary schools (like it was) and then moving the 6-8 graders over to Lincoln would allow the district to tear down the middle school and only add 1-2 classrooms at each elementary school. That is HUGE cost saving over renovating that building, or building a new one.

I would welcome the move with open arms as a parent of elementary age school children. My concerns are the same as yours were, but I've heard these concerns turn in to realities in talking with parents of children that moved from and elementary school to Lincoln, both this year and last year. I would much rather my children stay in the comfort of an elementary school at that age.

That move for my son was ten years ago. A lot can change since then, for sure. I just hope that some of the programs, like the LEAP programs will continue if the move is made back to the old configuration. And that if you are a parent with children impacted by this decision that you get involved with the discussion.

[rock]

I think the Concerned Citizens of Cumberland Twps. need to worry more about the big money buster and that is the school district the taxes that you pay into the Twps. are that pimple on the elephents ass. Mr. Blonde I don't think this is hyjacking this thread I think Al and his blowhards transplants are missing the big one here. Hey Al why don't you go out and voice your loud mouth at the school board instead of the Twps. or are you scared of them cause they are what you think smarter then you. Al you don't have a clue about anything the size of taxes you pay to the district is that largest out of all the taxes you pay in and as smart of a person you think you are you are stupid to think the Twps. taxes are the reason you pay so much. Why don't you take your voice of socalled reason out to the next board meeting and see how far you might get with the true tax burden of the Gettysburg area and by the way if you and your cronies would'nt have moved to this area maybe we would not have to have all these services that your kind desires and bitch if they don't get there fast enough.

[lifesaver]

November is almost over, Cumberland Twp. has submitted a balanced budget and no word that I've seen of a public meeting of the CCCT? Kudos to the Cumberland Twp. supervisors by the way, and to all those involved that have thought of their friends and neighbors in consideration of this whole process. Hats off to all of you!

[Spin Doctor]

Big Al has been quiet...


...which is very difficult for that loudmouth.

[rock]

Maybe he's looking to move again to I don't know Perry County?

[Spin Doctor]

How many people are in Al's so called "group" of Concerned Citizens? Three or four?

Most people view the Concerned Citizens of Cumberland Township as an ineffective branch of No Casino Gettysburg.

[Venter]

So NOW is there a meeting planned?

[JoJo]

Actually, the CCCT do have regularly scheduled monthly meetings. They are held the 4th Tuesday of every month...... at the Cumberland Township municipal building!

[Venter]

Dec 3, 2010 12:15:56 GMT -5 JoJo said:

Actually, the CCCT do have regularly scheduled monthly meetings. They are held the 4th Tuesday of every month...... at the Cumberland Township municipal building!

Good one!