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Post by Fire Marshal Bill on Jun 30, 2014 15:04:04 GMT -5
I saw on a facebook post that the Quality INN and Appalachian Brewing Company on Seminary Ridge in Gettysburg are being torn down. Does anyone know about this?
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Post by Mr Blonde on Jun 30, 2014 19:02:43 GMT -5
Purchased by Friends of the National Park and all building but General Lee's HQ are being demolished.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Jun 30, 2014 19:20:10 GMT -5
I just discovered that the Reliance Mine is (soon to be was) still open. I dislike the battlefield and the park service and the friends of the park.
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Post by Venter on Jun 30, 2014 20:46:17 GMT -5
So THAT'S the Big Announcement by the Civil War Rust on Tuesday!
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Post by Alex Oreilly on Jun 30, 2014 21:49:38 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the CWPT but since we can't get any new businesses in Gettysburg for the Tourists this actually could be a good thing. ABC already has their location at Gateway and seems to be doing well and by tearing down the Quality Inn those guests can now fill in the other hotels.
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Post by leeroy on Jun 30, 2014 23:33:08 GMT -5
This is going to be another big hit to the borough tax base.
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Post by Fire Marshal Bill on Jul 1, 2014 5:14:19 GMT -5
I'm not a fan of the CWPT but since we can't get any new businesses in Gettysburg for the Tourists this actually could be a good thing. ABC already has their location at Gateway and seems to be doing well and by tearing down the Quality Inn those guests can now fill in the other hotels. But they will give the land to the park service and it will come off the tax rolls, placing a bigger load on the everyone else |
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Post by Spin Doctor on Jul 1, 2014 11:11:48 GMT -5
This is going to be another big hit to the borough tax base. Former council president John Butterfield will figure it out. |
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Post by lifesaver on Jul 1, 2014 12:45:10 GMT -5
This is going to be another big hit to the borough tax base. Maybe for the borough, but not Adams County. I've heard that at least ABC is relocating. |
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Post by davew on Jul 1, 2014 12:46:34 GMT -5
This is going to be another big hit to the borough tax base. Former council president John Butterfield will figure it out. Maybe motorcycle muffler fines. |
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Post by lifesaver on Jul 1, 2014 12:47:28 GMT -5
I just discovered that the Reliance Mine is (soon to be was) still open. I dislike the battlefield and the park service and the friends of the park. Yep, have been there a time or two recently. |
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Post by Javier Miguel Vazquez III on Jul 1, 2014 12:49:05 GMT -5
This is going to be another big hit to the borough tax base. Former council president John Butterfield will figure it out. He'll "figure it out," alright. Butterfield has rejected Loring Shultz's proposed dinner theater at least three times now, along with Naugle, Weaver, Birkner and Brown, which would easily offset the loss of revenue, at least according to the figure he's quoted saying in the Gettysburg Times. www.gettysburgtimes.com/news/article_f5dab5be-0115-11e4-bc64-001a4bcf887a.htmlGettysburg Borough Council Finance Committee Chairman John Butterfield praised the Civil War Trust for its charitable contribution to the Gettysburg National Military Park but also lamented a future loss of revenue.
“With more than $3 million worth of property removed from the tax rolls, the borough will lose almost $12,000 annually in real estate tax revenue, which will be very difficult to recoup,” he said. |
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Post by Willie Stroker on Jul 2, 2014 7:14:02 GMT -5
Hey Javy....
Didn't borough council throw Butterfield and Naugle out of any positions of authority several years ago because of their obnoxious behavior ? How come the "Little Corporal" is president Birkner's go to guy with regard to finance ? I wouldn't try to negotiate a price of a snow cone with either of those to "Ass Hats". Krummerich is the most qualified on council to handle finance. If anyone remembers the borough actually had a surplus when Krummerich served his first term.
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Post by Spin Doctor on Jul 2, 2014 10:13:24 GMT -5
It's amazing that the boro claims to be so "business friendly" and every where you look, businesses are shutting down, closing and moving out of town. Vice President Schindel hit the nail on the head today in the paper when he stated that borough regulations make it tough for any business to survive/open/prosper.
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Post by Bird Brain on Jul 3, 2014 9:34:35 GMT -5
Hello everyone!
I was fluttering around Borough Hall yesterday, and overheard a lot of talk about the upcoming election. There is a lot of interest in seats in the third and first wards. Residents don't like the direction of council, and they're very unhappy with Butterfield's "Avenue Diner Gang."
Tweet, Tweet!
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Post by nilegrazowski on Jul 4, 2014 4:06:07 GMT -5
The Appalachian thing is a shame. I am a mug club member there. Guess I will have to transfer over to Gateway. When they were negotiating the lease some time ago they wondered why they could not get a longer commitment. They are trying to relocate but I can't think of any good structures really.
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Post by Venter on Jul 4, 2014 12:12:28 GMT -5
It's probably too close to their other location, but the Renn Kirby building is still available, as well as the MiniGolf a little further out.
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Post by Alex Oreilly on Jul 4, 2014 23:31:58 GMT -5
It's probably too close to their other location, but the Renn Kirby building is still available, as well as the MiniGolf a little further out. I think that would be to close to Gateway Venter and I think they are trying to be close to Downtown. |
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Post by buckeye on Jul 5, 2014 8:21:49 GMT -5
If ABC wants to be close to Downtown, which makes sense, sadly there are several vacant properties available. Not sure if they would be suitable for ABC's needs. In any event I hope they are successful in locating something. Their new location at Gateway is very nice. At the rate things are going the NPS will eventually own the entire borough anyway. Guess all of us will be looking at our taxes going up throughout Adams County. No new businesses are allowed and the few that are still here are either closing/moving and coming off the tax rolls.
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Post by Venter on Jul 5, 2014 17:35:20 GMT -5
What about the Building between McD's and KFC, on Steinwehr - the former Chinese Restaurant? I they are looking for decent parking, and location, that pretty much has both covered. May have to raze the building and begin over though. Oops. Then they run the chance that the Civil War Rust might buy THAT from under them  |
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Post by buckeye on Jul 7, 2014 7:17:35 GMT -5
Excellent suggestion, Venter. That would seem to be a great location. Although I thought I saw a "Sold" sign out in front of the property last week as I drove by. Another possibility would be a "Pad" site at the Outlet mall, back near the multiplex theater, which of course would require new construction and would be relatively close to the Gateway site. BTW: I see the new Sheetz is under construction at 15 and 97.
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Post by Fire Marshal Bill on Jul 8, 2014 5:20:21 GMT -5
What about the Building between McD's and KFC, on Steinwehr - the former Chinese Restaurant? I they are looking for decent parking, and location, that pretty much has both covered. May have to raze the building and begin over though. Oops. Then they run the chance that the Civil War Rust might buy THAT from under them I always thought that would be a good location for a Hardee's |
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Post by anonymous on Jul 8, 2014 6:32:55 GMT -5
You're kidding about the Hardee's, right? They tried that once 40 years ago.
So the company who owns the land ("Belmar Prperties" or something like that)where the hotel and ABC properties are is going to be sold, 4 acres for $5.5 million, and you're blaming .......Butterfield. Did you want him to buy the land instead of the Civil War Trust? The Trust claims they will "talk" to the taxpaying entities about PILOT, which the paper indicated wa about $70K between the town, the county and the school board.
The town would benefit from having Krummerich as head of the finance committee; hopefully the next reorganization in January will restore him to that position.
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Post by bullet on Jul 11, 2014 15:56:23 GMT -5
Nobody is blaming Butterfied for the sale. They are blaming him for being a dolt. His quote was, "he was blindsided". Ted Streeter indicated that he informed council on June 21st of the pending sale. Maybe there wasn't an Avenue Restaurant meeting between June 21 and July 7th. Now let's talk about the CWT starting a PIOLT program,I am sure they watch how council in particular Butterfield and Birkner treat the largest taxpayer in town, Gettysburg College. And the college does it voluntary. Every chance they get they trash them, "Oh college needs to do more, they don't do enough". Nice letter by Patti Lawson the other day explaining how much the college does do. So this is the type of people CWT want to give money to? Maybe they can look at how the B & B boys negotiate with their police department or the rec board. Just the group I would want to give money to. That is what people are blaming Butterfield for.
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Post by Willie Stroker on Jul 11, 2014 20:32:24 GMT -5
Hey Bullet...... You know as well as I do the collection of "Third Ward Misfits" needs to be replaced. Throw in Birkner (the professor) who may have book knowledge, but little common sense, and you have a combination that does more damage to the borough than a broken snowplow on Steinwehr Avenue. Sources tell me there are at least 4 potential candidates in the 3rd Ward who are also disgusted with Butterfield, Naugle, and Weaver, and will be poised to run for their seats. It's beyond my comprehension why Birkner gives Butterfield or Naugle any type of responsible positions. Didn't council throw them out of leadership roles once because the acted like a couple of "power hungry Asshats"?, And Weaver says he is a Republican and votes with the Democrats all the time for a tax increase. I don't think he knows what he is. Clean these people out and get some fresh ideas and people with the interests of the borough on board.
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