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Post by SpellChecker on Nov 13, 2010 11:14:26 GMT -5
HMMM I just read on the FB page that someone sent in a pile of post cards from NCG. Heres the kicker only a few were the original post card and most were photo copies. Susan went on to say "we don't know who photo copied all these postcards and sent them in but we appreciate it" Am I the only one who finds it strange that someone would photo copy post cards and distribute them to OTHER people to send in? Kinda sounds to me that someone MASS sent a bunch. Did they just show up at the PGCB and ask to see how much stuff was sent by NCG so they could take pictures or what? I'll just goahead now and say I call bullshit that she doesn't know who made those copies and sent them in. I'd be willing to bet as well the same person or organization paid for all of the postage.
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Post by SpellChecker on Nov 13, 2010 11:15:59 GMT -5
Here is susan's whole post on this
" This is a photo of over 1800 postcards received by the PGCB. (The photo was taken at the PGCB today.) We don't know who made hundreds of copies of the plain black and white postcards and distributed them to be mailed in, but whoever it was, Thank You! You can also see some of Violet's design cards, and we know many com...mercial postcards depicting Gettysburg scenes were also mailed in."
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Post by Fire Marshal Bill on Nov 13, 2010 11:43:24 GMT -5
Here is susan's whole post on this " This is a photo of over 1800 postcards received by the PGCB. (The photo was taken at the PGCB today.) We don't know who made hundreds of copies of the plain black and white postcards and distributed them to be mailed in, but whoever it was, Thank You! You can also see some of Violet's design cards, and we know many com...mercial postcards depicting Gettysburg scenes were also mailed in." I wonder if the postcards had the necessary information, how many were from people who already signed petitions. How many were from local people, I would think they signed petitions. And photo copies? Doesn't sound like something legal. And were they just delivered? If so they are late aren't they? So many questions, but I am sure so very few answers from NCG
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Post by dspitz17325 on Nov 14, 2010 8:52:09 GMT -5
1800 postcards out of thousands who supposedly signed their petitions sounds like her fans aren't supporting her or that was all the money she herself was willing to spend for yet another round of trying to Bullshit the gaming board and the people of this state .
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Post by gburgbaseballmom on Nov 14, 2010 11:46:02 GMT -5
1800 postcards out of thousands who supposedly signed their petitions sounds like her fans aren't supporting her or that was all the money she herself was willing to spend for yet another round of trying to Bullshit the gaming board and the people of this state . Exactly right!
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Post by rienzi on Nov 14, 2010 12:04:29 GMT -5
Here is susan's whole post on this " This is a photo of over 1800 postcards received by the PGCB. (The photo was taken at the PGCB today.) We don't know who made hundreds of copies of the plain black and white postcards and distributed them to be mailed in, but whoever it was, Thank You! You can also see some of Violet's design cards, and we know many com...mercial postcards depicting Gettysburg scenes were also mailed in." My friend's wife works at Staples. She said it was "someone from NCG" because she helped them. When I asked her for who she said she didn't know but knew for sure that they were NCG they wore the damn buttons on their shirt. Next time, SSP, send them out of town where no one will know them.
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Post by lifesaver on Nov 14, 2010 12:19:31 GMT -5
Here is susan's whole post on this " This is a photo of over 1800 postcards received by the PGCB. (The photo was taken at the PGCB today.) We don't know who made hundreds of copies of the plain black and white postcards and distributed them to be mailed in, but whoever it was, Thank You! You can also see some of Violet's design cards, and we know many com...mercial postcards depicting Gettysburg scenes were also mailed in." My friend's wife works at Staples. She said it was "someone from NCG" because she helped them. When I asked her for who she said she didn't know but knew for sure that they were NCG they wore the damn buttons on their shirt. Next time, SSP, send them out of town where no one will know them. Hmmm......local copy store, then suddenly 1800 post cards arrive in Harrisburg. And they are all separated out in a tidy bundle for display at PGCB headquarters. Yeah, I believe that.
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Post by MattC on Nov 14, 2010 12:56:18 GMT -5
Here is susan's whole post on this " This is a photo of over 1800 postcards received by the PGCB. (The photo was taken at the PGCB today.) We don't know who made hundreds of copies of the plain black and white postcards and distributed them to be mailed in, but whoever it was, Thank You! You can also see some of Violet's design cards, and we know many com...mercial postcards depicting Gettysburg scenes were also mailed in." Wouldn't surprise me one bit My friend's wife works at Staples. She said it was "someone from NCG" because she helped them. When I asked her for who she said she didn't know but knew for sure that they were NCG they wore the damn buttons on their shirt. Next time, SSP, send them out of town where no one will know them.
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Post by Fire Marshal Bill on Nov 14, 2010 16:19:02 GMT -5
My friend's wife works at Staples. She said it was "someone from NCG" because she helped them. When I asked her for who she said she didn't know but knew for sure that they were NCG they wore the damn buttons on their shirt. Next time, SSP, send them out of town where no one will know them. Hmmm......local copy store, then suddenly 1800 post cards arrive in Harrisburg. And they are all separated out in a tidy bundle for display at PGCB headquarters. Yeah, I believe that. And I wonder just how NCG has access to the inter sanctum of the PGCB to have access to such information and to be allowed to set these postcards up for the picture?
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Post by lifesaver on Nov 14, 2010 17:36:03 GMT -5
Hmmm......local copy store, then suddenly 1800 post cards arrive in Harrisburg. And they are all separated out in a tidy bundle for display at PGCB headquarters. Yeah, I believe that. And I wonder just how NCG has access to the inter sanctum of the PGCB to have access to such information and to be allowed to set these postcards up for the picture? Which is why I say Hmmmmmmm........I think spellchecker called it right.
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Post by SpellChecker on Nov 14, 2010 17:55:22 GMT -5
And I wonder just how NCG has access to the inter sanctum of the PGCB to have access to such information and to be allowed to set these postcards up for the picture? Which is why I say Hmmmmmmm........I think spellchecker called it right. The whole thing smelled fishy but then when she made it a point to say "we don't know who did this but thanks" it kinda gave it all away. SSP isn't a very good liar.
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Post by MattC on Nov 15, 2010 9:49:20 GMT -5
Which is why I say Hmmmmmmm........I think spellchecker called it right. The whole thing smelled fishy but then when she made it a point to say "we don't know who did this but thanks" it kinda gave it all away. SSP isn't a very good liar. she was before people got hip to her jive. but you're right, she's a bad liar because a good one would adjust once they learn they've been found/figured out. she's stayed the course with her lying techniques.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Nov 15, 2010 16:10:12 GMT -5
Post card size regular paper can't be mailed can it - it wouldn't hold up to postal machines, etc. They must have paid a lot of money to have all of those photocopied on heavy paper.
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Post by Fire Marshal Bill on Nov 15, 2010 18:31:17 GMT -5
Post card size regular paper can't be mailed can it - it wouldn't hold up to postal machines, etc. They must have paid a lot of money to have all of those photocopied on heavy paper. Well packaged like that, they could have sent them in a box, bundled like that. It would probably be less expensive to do it that way than to send individual post cards.
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Post by HoneyBadger on Nov 15, 2010 20:42:24 GMT -5
Post card size regular paper can't be mailed can it - it wouldn't hold up to postal machines, etc. They must have paid a lot of money to have all of those photocopied on heavy paper. Well packaged like that, they could have sent them in a box, bundled like that. It would probably be less expensive to do it that way than to send individual post cards. If they did, unless the rules have changed, that's some kind of postal fraud. Used to be when I mailed packages I wasn't allowed to have a letter inside the package. Bundled or not, seems to me the post office would have wanted each post card metered appropriately.
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Post by dspitz17325 on Nov 16, 2010 7:11:19 GMT -5
Well packaged like that, they could have sent them in a box, bundled like that. It would probably be less expensive to do it that way than to send individual post cards. If they did, unless the rules have changed, that's some kind of postal fraud. Used to be when I mailed packages I wasn't allowed to have a letter inside the package. Bundled or not, seems to me the post office would have wanted each post card metered appropriately. Lets see how much of a criminal Susan is Criminal trespass the kid on the monument, stealing not giving the USPS their postage and lets not forget she probably sent those postcards via UPS and the last time i looked that was illegal because they are not allowed to deliver mail .So when is this bitch going to be held responsible for her CRIMINAL acts never the Government doesn't care about loosing money , maybe somebody should send this info to Tom Corbet before he becomes Governor and while he can have her ass thrown in jail where she belongs .
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Post by HoneyBadger on Nov 16, 2010 20:07:25 GMT -5
If they did, unless the rules have changed, that's some kind of postal fraud. Used to be when I mailed packages I wasn't allowed to have a letter inside the package. Bundled or not, seems to me the post office would have wanted each post card metered appropriately. Lets see how much of a criminal Susan is Criminal trespass the kid on the monument, stealing not giving the USPS their postage and lets not forget she probably sent those postcards via UPS and the last time i looked that was illegal because they are not allowed to deliver mail .So when is this bitch going to be held responsible for her CRIMINAL acts never the Government doesn't care about loosing money , maybe somebody should send this info to Tom Corbet before he becomes Governor and while he can have her ass thrown in jail where she belongs . She belongs in an asylum in a little room with padded walls. And a video camera so that she's always talking to the press - in her teeny little head.
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Post by SFP on Nov 19, 2010 1:41:39 GMT -5
Wow. Try this one on for size. Did it ever occur to you that some people made copies and went door to door with the post cards and asked people to send them out? Or handed them out at the tables that were set up during different events. I know someone came to my door, but if you had a Pro sign out, chances are they did not stop at your place.
Anyone ever consider that as compared to sending them all together bundled in a box?? Really?
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Post by HoneyBadger on Nov 19, 2010 7:56:53 GMT -5
Wow. Try this one on for size. Did it ever occur to you that some people made copies and went door to door with the post cards and asked people to send them out? Or handed them out at the tables that were set up during different events. I know someone came to my door, but if you had a Pro sign out, chances are they did not stop at your place. Anyone ever consider that as compared to sending them all together bundled in a box?? Really? Well, yeah, but speculating is more fun. Don't you people laugh about anything? ?
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Post by SpellChecker on Nov 19, 2010 8:23:36 GMT -5
Wow. Try this one on for size. Did it ever occur to you that some people made copies and went door to door with the post cards and asked people to send them out? Or handed them out at the tables that were set up during different events. I know someone came to my door, but if you had a Pro sign out, chances are they did not stop at your place. Anyone ever consider that as compared to sending them all together bundled in a box?? Really? I've also considered someone forged a bunch of them and sent them in or that the same people who already signed petitions and wrote letters sent in a post card as well to make it appear that more people were signing and sending than actually did.
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Post by gburgbaseballmom on Nov 19, 2010 8:57:31 GMT -5
Wow. Try this one on for size. Did it ever occur to you that some people made copies and went door to door with the post cards and asked people to send them out? Or handed them out at the tables that were set up during different events. I know someone came to my door, but if you had a Pro sign out, chances are they did not stop at your place. Anyone ever consider that as compared to sending them all together bundled in a box?? Really? I've also considered someone forged a bunch of them and sent them in or that the same people who already signed petitions and wrote letters sent in a post card as well to make it appear that more people were signing and sending than actually did. My take on this is that Suzie and a bunch of her groupies had a big pow wow and sat around one night filling them all out!
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Post by weekender on Nov 19, 2010 10:41:40 GMT -5
Wow. Try this one on for size. Did it ever occur to you that some people made copies and went door to door with the post cards and asked people to send them out? Or handed them out at the tables that were set up during different events. I know someone came to my door, but if you had a Pro sign out, chances are they did not stop at your place. Anyone ever consider that as compared to sending them all together bundled in a box?? Really? OK, so if what you suggest is in fact the case and they were all "sent out" as a result of grass roots door to door efforts and all individually sent out, where did the picture come from? I am most certain that no one at the PCGB is inviting anyone in to photograph support letters that they have received (such behavior would in my mind, for lack of a better phrase, be condsidered tampering with evidence). The only logical conclusion is that whoever "collected" all of these cards, bundled them and then photographed their "collection" before they sent them! Sal, anything you can say to explain this photo in relation to the grass roots effort that you described would be much appreciated.
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Post by Alex Oreilly on Nov 19, 2010 17:42:07 GMT -5
I agree with you Weekender, Do you you really think we are that stupid Sal, in thinking we will believe that explanation?
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Post by Fire Marshal Bill on Nov 19, 2010 18:01:05 GMT -5
And I would think that should anyone in the office of the PGCB be spending their time taking such pictures, or allowing someone else into the area to take such pictures there should be a criminal investigation of that individual. After all, if they are letting someone in to take pictures, would it not be possible for that individual to also maybe pick up and walk out with key points of evidence? I would not be surprised it that individual may have walked out with six or seven thousand PCAC petitions with a hundred valid names on each page.
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Post by SFP on Nov 19, 2010 23:28:00 GMT -5
Wow. Try this one on for size. Did it ever occur to you that some people made copies and went door to door with the post cards and asked people to send them out? Or handed them out at the tables that were set up during different events. I know someone came to my door, but if you had a Pro sign out, chances are they did not stop at your place. Anyone ever consider that as compared to sending them all together bundled in a box?? Really? OK, so if what you suggest is in fact the case and they were all "sent out" as a result of grass roots door to door efforts and all individually sent out, where did the picture come from? I am most certain that no one at the PCGB is inviting anyone in to photograph support letters that they have received (such behavior would in my mind, for lack of a better phrase, be condsidered tampering with evidence). The only logical conclusion is that whoever "collected" all of these cards, bundled them and then photographed their "collection" before they sent them! Sal, anything you can say to explain this photo in relation to the grass roots effort that you described would be much appreciated. The grassrots effort is what went into getting people to fill in their address on a post card and send it in stating their stance against the casino, whether going door to door or handing them out at the tables that were manned throughout the summer in town. As I said, people went out knocking on doors, handing them out at tables and other forms of distribution. But if you had a Pro sign at your house, chances are you were not offered a card. The picture was taken where the items have been collected by the PGCB. Your only "logical" conclusion is not necessarily the only explanation. You guys have been speculating on all of the illegal ways that this was done. I'll bet if you imagined a way to do it legally, you might stumble on how it happened. BTW - don't you think that as they receive these post cards, they might bundle them as such in order to keep things neatly in order , whatever they receive so they can catalog it for summarization, or do you imagine they just toss everything into boxes as they come in randomly?
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