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Post by MattC on Nov 24, 2010 9:54:40 GMT -5
So, we get Gate Raped at the Airport, won't have a choice in who our doctor is and when we can get treatment, will go to jail if we don't have health insurance, will have our gold taxed (according to the health care bill), have just had Quantitative Easing which will cause inflation, are about to be hit with higher taxes and, as of today, Russia and China will not deal in dollars anymore. How's that hopey changey thing working? I think I'm going to start apology squads, or maybe beg for mercy squads. Not sure what I'll call them but, basically, those of us who voted against Barry O knowing full well he would put us where we are go from door to door and ask our neighborhood Barry voters if they regret it yet. If they say yes, we tell them they can kneel before us, kiss our rings and all will be forgiven. You will be spared when the civil war comes. The hold outs? Well, you go on the list. Ah. That felt good to fantasize. www.theblaze.com/stories/preparing-for-revolution-progressive-media-knows-food-crisis-and-violence-are-coming/www.theblaze.com/stories/communists-cry-yes-we-can-in-spanish-at-anti-capitalism-rally/www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=JVAhr4hZDJE&vq+medium#t=19
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Post by dspitz17325 on Nov 30, 2010 20:40:09 GMT -5
And since we are talking about it , how long do you think the king criminal Ted Kennedy would have lived if he had Obama care .
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Post by C.O. on Jan 12, 2011 9:58:54 GMT -5
I feel just fine knowing we averted the disaster of 4 more years of republican control. He ran on HOPE and CHANGE, not DEFINITLY and CHANGE. I would hope most people realized that not much is actuall gonna change. But its been good to have someone with some motivation to change, rather than someone who wanted to do the same old crap. I was sure hoping that I would get the opportunity to jump on board the (already existing) health care plan that federal employees get, but I knew that would never ACTUALLY happen, and we would end up with some crap plan that didnt change much of anything. ALright, I was convinced that MYABE it COULD happen, but I don't blame Obama for it not happening. He sure as hell tried, and got closer than any other president. The health care tyrants once again were able to buy enough politicians and brain wash enough morons to think the world would come to an end once we can all afford go to the doctor. Lets atleast give Obama credit for what he DID do, he saved the American Auto Industry.
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Post by dspitz17325 on Jan 12, 2011 10:26:32 GMT -5
I feel just fine knowing we averted the disaster of 4 more years of republican control. He ran on HOPE and CHANGE, not DEFINITLY and CHANGE. I would hope most people realized that not much is actuall gonna change. But its been good to have someone with some motivation to change, rather than someone who wanted to do the same old crap. I was sure hoping that I would get the opportunity to jump on board the (already existing) health care plan that federal employees get, but I knew that would never ACTUALLY happen, and we would end up with some crap plan that didnt change much of anything. ALright, I was convinced that MYABE it COULD happen, but I don't blame Obama for it not happening. He sure as hell tried, and got closer than any other president. The health care tyrants once again were able to buy enough politicians and brain wash enough morons to think the world would come to an end once we can all afford go to the doctor. Lets atleast give Obama credit for what he DID do, he saved the American Auto Industry. News flash Obie bought GM we didn't bail them out , when you own 54% of a company you didn't save them he bought them with our money and for the record Ford got no money because they didn't need help and ask the 120,000. people who worked on the Pontiac line if they are happy they were fired because of Obama's buy out.And where in the US Constitution does it say you have the right to Government funded health care , i will save you the trouble of reading it IT DOESN'T .
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Post by MattC on Jan 12, 2011 11:53:09 GMT -5
I feel just fine knowing we averted the disaster of 4 more years of republican control. He ran on HOPE and CHANGE, not DEFINITLY and CHANGE. I would hope most people realized that not much is actuall gonna change. But its been good to have someone with some motivation to change, rather than someone who wanted to do the same old crap. I was sure hoping that I would get the opportunity to jump on board the (already existing) health care plan that federal employees get, but I knew that would never ACTUALLY happen, and we would end up with some crap plan that didnt change much of anything. ALright, I was convinced that MYABE it COULD happen, but I don't blame Obama for it not happening. He sure as hell tried, and got closer than any other president. The health care tyrants once again were able to buy enough politicians and brain wash enough morons to think the world would come to an end once we can all afford go to the doctor. Lets atleast give Obama credit for what he DID do, he saved the American Auto Industry. glug glug glug. how's that Kool-Aid taste?
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Post by weekender on Jan 12, 2011 13:51:09 GMT -5
I was sure hoping that I would get the opportunity to jump on board the (already existing) health care plan that federal employees get, but I knew that would never ACTUALLY happen, and we would end up with some crap plan that didn't change much of anything. Alright, I was convinced that MAYBE it COULD happen, but I don't blame Obama for it not happening. He sure as hell tried, and got closer than any other president. OH, I could say so much, but I am not even going to try to address all of the flaws in your thinking... That said, 1) What the Federal Employees get is not so great, not sure where you are getting your information. As someone who went from the private to the public sector I can tell you the the health care plan of FEDS is NOT better than that of private industry AND it costs a hell of a lot more. You should have figured that out when the members of congress exempted themselves from being on the same program as the rest of the government employees... Don't see B.O. putting his family of the regular employee program. 2) And since you are singing the praises of B.O. how about all of those low paid government employees that he promised would not be impacted by his policies, he was only going to go after the "fat cat, top 1%", and all those "rich" folks who make over 250k. What did he do, he froze salaries of federal employees (no COLA). Not only the salaries of all those supposed overpaid management but imagine the impact that this policy of singling out government employees had on the guys who work the printing presses, food workers, drivers or are custodial staff (i.e. anyone who is lower grade than say a 9). All that talk about not hurting the little folks and that is what he did, he penalized people for working for the government. I did not get hurt by it, but I sure do feel for the people who are supporting their families on a low government salary (and paying very high health insurance premiums). You can not blame B.O., just blame everyone who voted for him...
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Jan 12, 2011 15:21:28 GMT -5
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Jan 12, 2011 15:34:41 GMT -5
Obama's broken promises www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/Highlights: Expand the child and dependent care credit? No End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000? No. End no-bid contracts above $25,000? No. Allow imported prescription drugs? No. Centralize ethics and lobbying information for voters? No. Allow five days of public comment before signing bills? No. Close Guantanamo detention center? No. Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials? No. Allow bankruptcy judges to modify terms of a home mortgage? No. Re-establish the National Aeronautics and Space Council? No. Pay for the national service plan without increasing the deficit? No. Reduce earmarks to 1994 levels? No. Allow penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009? No. No family making less than $250,000 will see "any form of tax increase."? No. Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN? Didn't happen Introduce a comprehensive immigration bill in the first year? Nope. Some of his other biggest campaign promise failures are in my mind his biggest successes. Stuff like not getting cap and trade, renewing the Bush tax cuts, not getting a public option for health care, not getting tax increases on capital gains, and not removing the tax exemptions and deductions for higher earners.
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Post by poindexter on Jan 12, 2011 15:49:52 GMT -5
Obama's broken promises www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/Highlights: Expand the child and dependent care credit? No End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000? No. End no-bid contracts above $25,000? No. Allow imported prescription drugs? No. Centralize ethics and lobbying information for voters? No. Allow five days of public comment before signing bills? No. Close Guantanamo detention center? No. Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials? No. Allow bankruptcy judges to modify terms of a home mortgage? No. Re-establish the National Aeronautics and Space Council? No. Pay for the national service plan without increasing the deficit? No. Reduce earmarks to 1994 levels? No. Allow penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009? No. No family making less than $250,000 will see "any form of tax increase."? No. Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN? Didn't happen Introduce a comprehensive immigration bill in the first year? Nope. Some of his other biggest campaign promise failures are in my mind his biggest successes. Stuff like not getting cap and trade, renewing the Bush tax cuts, not getting a public option for health care, not getting tax increases on capital gains, and not removing the tax exemptions and deductions for higher earners. Now now sheeople...Let's not forget to be fair and balanced with our kool-aid.... www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-kept/
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Jan 12, 2011 16:32:59 GMT -5
Obama's broken promises www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-broken/Highlights: Expand the child and dependent care credit? No End income tax for seniors making less than $50,000? No. End no-bid contracts above $25,000? No. Allow imported prescription drugs? No. Centralize ethics and lobbying information for voters? No. Allow five days of public comment before signing bills? No. Close Guantanamo detention center? No. Tougher rules against revolving door for lobbyists and former officials? No. Allow bankruptcy judges to modify terms of a home mortgage? No. Re-establish the National Aeronautics and Space Council? No. Pay for the national service plan without increasing the deficit? No. Reduce earmarks to 1994 levels? No. Allow penalty-free hardship withdrawals from retirement accounts in 2008 and 2009? No. No family making less than $250,000 will see "any form of tax increase."? No. Negotiate health care reform in public sessions televised on C-SPAN? Didn't happen Introduce a comprehensive immigration bill in the first year? Nope. Some of his other biggest campaign promise failures are in my mind his biggest successes. Stuff like not getting cap and trade, renewing the Bush tax cuts, not getting a public option for health care, not getting tax increases on capital gains, and not removing the tax exemptions and deductions for higher earners. Now now sheeople...Let's not forget to be fair and balanced with our kool-aid.... www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/promises/obameter/rulings/promise-kept/Thanks for helping. Did you read these? If you did you'd know that one of the promises marked as kept is, I shit you not, Get his daughters a puppy. After that it's all spending and federal hiring. With the exception of making sure vets get more attention from the government it's mostly fluff. Does our federal government need to be involved in removing brush and small trees that may cause wildfires? Do we need a White House office on Urban Policy? Do we need an artists corp for schools and more money for the NEA? Why is our government in the art business anyway? It's a weak two year resume at best.
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Jan 12, 2011 18:01:58 GMT -5
With regard to quantitative easing this should do the trick in a rather amusing way
I keep seeing stories on the news about prices going up and how to cope. I never see anyone examine the why. It's always "oh well, the price of everything is going up again". There is never any reporting on the fact that a non government institution with the support of the Treasury is driving the prices up on purpose. Make no mistake this is being done with the support of the Obama Administration
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Post by poindexter on Jan 12, 2011 22:52:00 GMT -5
Thanks for helping. Did you read these? If you did you'd know that one of the promises marked as kept is, I shit you not, Get his daughters a puppy. After that it's all spending and federal hiring. With the exception of making sure vets get more attention from the government it's mostly fluff. Does our federal government need to be involved in removing brush and small trees that may cause wildfires? Do we need a White House office on Urban Policy? Do we need an artists corp for schools and more money for the NEA? Why is our government in the art business anyway? It's a weak two year resume at best. RW, I'm not trying to be a pain in the ass here. I'm simply saying that by looking at only a subset of the overall data it is easy to draw and support conclusions that justify one's own personal belief. Here's my subset from the same data.... No. 4: Extend child tax credits and marriage-penalty fixes. yes No. 16: Increase minority access to capital. yes No. 17: Require economic justification for tax changes. yes No. 33: Establish a credit card bill of rights. yes No. 36: Expand loan programs for small businesses. yes No. 37: Extend the Bush tax cuts for lower incomes. yes No. 40: Extend and index the 2007 Alternative Minimum Tax patch. yes No. 48: Close the "doughnut hole" in Medicare prescription drug plan. yes No. 51: Require insurance companies to cover pre-existing conditions. yes No. 53: Give tax credits to those who need help to pay health premiums. yes No. 57: Expand eligibility for Medicaid. yes No. 63: Require health plans to disclose how much of the premium goes to patient care. yes No. 105: Increase the Veterans Administration budget to recruit and retain more mental health professionals. yes No. 109: Fully fund the Veterans Administration. yes No. 110: Assure that the Veterans Administration budget is prepared as 'must-pass' legislation. yes No. 113: Expand the Veterans Administration's number of "centers of excellence" in specialty care. yes No. 125: Direct military leaders to end war in Iraq. yes No. 134: Send two additional brigades to Afghanistan. yes No. 156: Make greater investment in advanced military air technology. yes No. 161: End the abuse of supplemental budgets for war. yes No. 167: Make U.S. military aid to Pakistan conditional on anti-terror efforts. yes No. 182: Allocate Homeland Security funding according to risk. yes No. 184: Create a real National Infrastructure Protection Plan. yes No. 188: Increase funding for local emergency planning. yes No. 195: Seek verifiable reductions in nuclear stockpiles. yes No. 196: Extend monitoring and verification provisions of the START I Treaty. yes No. 222: Grant Americans unrestricted rights to visit family and send money to Cuba. yes No. 239: Release presidential records. yes No. 293: Repeal "Don't Ask, Don't Tell" policy. yes No. 334: Use the private sector to improve spaceflight. yes No. 359: Rebuild schools in New Orleans. yes No. 380: Bolster the military's ability to speak different languages. yes No. 427: Ban lobbyist gifts to executive employees. yes No. 435: Create new criminal penalties for mortgage fraud. yes No. 487: Help states and localities address sprawl. yes No. 506: Raise the small business investment expensing limit to $250,000 through the end of 2009. yes No. 507: Extend unemployment insurance benefits and temporarily suspend taxes on these benefits. yes I guess you could call a lot of it fluff. But a lot of it is not fluff at all. As far as to what level our federal government should extend to on programs for brush clearing and arts councils, etc., what an excellent question. A question that I believe has been the subject of debate by elected officials and citizens since before our constitution was finalized till as recently as yesterday. And I wouldn't want it any other way! In order to form a more perfect union.... Oh, and I have to admit...it makes for a better two year resume' than a certain Poindexter I know...
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Post by poindexter on Jan 12, 2011 22:54:11 GMT -5
Here's a quick summary of all the "Promise Data" to date...
The Obameter Scorecard
Promise Kept 132 Compromise 41 Promise Broken 30 Stalled 82 In the Works 218 Not yet rated 3
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Post by dspitz17325 on Jan 13, 2011 7:05:34 GMT -5
Increase the deficit by how much in the first 90 days in office , and how many more times is this looser going to apologize for the USA helping the helpless out . OH and the most important can we find somebody this idiot hasn't bow down to this includes all Muslims.It took Bush 8 years ,two wars and a Democratic controlled Congress to make a deficit one third of what Obie has done in one quarter of the time .AND WHERE IS UNEMPLOYMENT a record high or are we still trying to blame Bush on that one also i didn't like Bush but at least he isn't a Socialist believing idiot .
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Post by C.O. on Jan 16, 2011 0:25:57 GMT -5
Hey, I didnt say he bailed GM out, he saved them. Bail out is what they did with the banks, and that worked out in our favor, didnt it? My idea of "save" (and also what they SHOULDA did with the banks instead of just giving a bunch of greedy tyrants more money) is "buy" the industry, fire the incompetant tyrant, hire someone that cares about something outside his wallet to run the business, streamline, and sell back to share holders.
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Post by Rainier Wolfcastle on Jan 16, 2011 6:45:58 GMT -5
Hey, I didnt say he bailed GM out, he saved them. Bail out is what they did with the banks, and that worked out in our favor, didnt it? My idea of "save" (and also what they SHOULDA did with the banks instead of just giving a bunch of greedy tyrants more money) is "buy" the industry, fire the incompetant tyrant, hire someone that cares about something outside his wallet to run the business, streamline, and sell back to share holders. Actually we'd be a lot better off if the government stayed out of the whole thing. Government is not here to decide what businesses succeed or fail. That is absolutely not a function of our government. If you think it is, point it out to me in the Constitution. And please don't give me some bullshit Commerce Clause argument. Ask anyone trying to get a loan right now how well the bank bailouts worked for the general public. Every step the government has taken has merely pushed the inevitable further down the road and practically insured a double dip recession. Government intervention always produces unintended consequences that precipitate more government intervention and the cycle goes on and on. I'd also like to point out that no matter how many people in the media want to try and polish the turd of our government policies the fact remains that these trillions of dollars have not made any impact in unemployment. There will be no recovery without jobs regardless of what they try and sell you in the media.
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Post by C.O. on Jan 18, 2011 0:35:43 GMT -5
How do you KNOW we would be better if the government stayed out of the whole thing? How do you know that a GM implosion wouldn't have been the start of a black hole that sucked everything in if we had just let them go. Name one counrty or entity that has succeeded without an indivisual or a corprate body telling it what to do. Nobody LIKES being controled, and everyone can point out examples of people that have failed at controling things, but give me one example of a country or entity succeeding while in an anarchtic state.
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Post by dspitz17325 on Jan 18, 2011 7:23:57 GMT -5
How do you KNOW we would be better if the government stayed out of the whole thing? How do you know that a GM implosion wouldn't have been the start of a black hole that sucked everything in if we had just let them go. Name one counrty or entity that has succeeded without an indivisual or a corprate body telling it what to do. Nobody LIKES being controled, and everyone can point out examples of people that have failed at controling things, but give me one example of a country or entity succeeding while in an anarchtic state. It's called COMPETITION and the stronger survive and when the weaker die the ones left get bigger and produce more it's the American way, and who the hell told the government that our money they steal from us should go to BUY out a company that can't even compete with the rest ,with out OUR help .
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Post by dspitz17325 on Feb 6, 2011 13:30:25 GMT -5
And to add insult to injury the Court said Obama care is UNCONSTITUTIONAL wow who would have ever thought .Lets see if that idiot gets it YOU CANT MAKE SOMEONE BUY INSURANCE THATS ILLEGAL BUT SO IS THE TAXATION OF INCOME ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL and they have been doing that for 99 years now .
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Post by HoneyBadger on Feb 6, 2011 18:09:50 GMT -5
And to add insult to injury the Court said Obama care is UNCONSTITUTIONAL wow who would have ever thought .Lets see if that idiot gets it YOU CANT MAKE SOMEONE BUY INSURANCE THATS ILLEGAL BUT SO IS THE TAXATION OF INCOME ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL and they have been doing that for 99 years now . Compared to the probable alternative - McCain/Palin - I have no remorse. Now Sarah is going to trademark her name. Who - in their right (yes, I said right) mind - would want to use that ignorant piece of shits name for anything? Compared to the possible alternative - McCain/Palin - anyone in their right mind knows they voted for the better candidates. Perhaps not the best as you have so ably noted but certainly better than those two. I apologize to the Palin lovers now. Of course, you know that her marriage to Todd is so great because she neutered him after her last pregnancy - with her teeth. acpco covered federal benefits pretty clearly too. Between taxes and increased medical benefits my salary is lower than last year. I don't mind; I have a job. But the insurance sucks. They'll pay for smokers to quit smoking but they don't have decent dental coverage. I don't care who runs next time around. I'll do what my brother does and write in my own candidate. I'm thinking Pepe Le Pew and the cat because they all stink.
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Post by dspitz17325 on Feb 7, 2011 22:50:19 GMT -5
And to add insult to injury the Court said Obama care is UNCONSTITUTIONAL wow who would have ever thought .Lets see if that idiot gets it YOU CANT MAKE SOMEONE BUY INSURANCE THATS ILLEGAL BUT SO IS THE TAXATION OF INCOME ON THE FEDERAL LEVEL and they have been doing that for 99 years now . Compared to the probable alternative - McCain/Palin - I have no remorse. Now Sarah is going to trademark her name. Who - in their right (yes, I said right) mind - would want to use that ignorant piece of shits name for anything? Ifound this pict and it's just for you . Compared to the possible alternative - McCain/Palin - anyone in their right mind knows they voted for the better candidates. Perhaps not the best as you have so ably noted but certainly better than those two. I apologize to the Palin lovers now. Of course, you know that her marriage to Todd is so great because she neutered him after her last pregnancy - with her teeth. acpco covered federal benefits pretty clearly too. Between taxes and increased medical benefits my salary is lower than last year. I don't mind; I have a job. But the insurance sucks. They'll pay for smokers to quit smoking but they don't have decent dental coverage. I don't care who runs next time around. I'll do what my brother does and write in my own candidate. I'm thinking Pepe Le Pew and the cat because they all stink. Attachments:
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Post by MattC on Feb 23, 2011 10:17:17 GMT -5
So let's recap. Since I was 19 I've been saying we're heading for civil war. When Barry was elected, it guaranteed it. Between the Tea Parties and Unions, there's a line in the sand and I don't think the Unions will win. They will, as always, resort to violence. Meanwhile, President "The World Will Love You Because of Me" has proven what his own VP said: he will be tested by the world. You said it, Joe, and he's failing. Every day there's a new country in turmoil. Not that it's his fault, but he's not too effective in slowing it. By contrast, Bush went into Iraq and Lybia just gave up its WMD program, Reagan called the Soviets what they were and demanded they tear downte Wall. Obama, who is quick to take the side ofthe Unions at home and misrepresemt the bills in question, is rather silent as the world falls into chaos. Just more proof that he iis purposefully presiding over disaster for, without crisis, Liberals will lose power.
I'm just saying that this will all spill over and it's about to get ugly. That is, of course, unless a leader, an actual leader, steps to the front. Yeah... We're fucked.
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Post by dspitz17325 on Feb 23, 2011 11:20:25 GMT -5
Now i would love to hear from some of the poor people who voted for him when they find out HE CUT OUT THE OUT THE FEDERALLY FUNDED PROGRAM TO HELP THE LOW TO NO INCOME PEOPLE PAY FOR THEIR UTILITY'S , it will be a very cold winter next year for them .Actually they can't shut off the power and gas to these people till April so how do you think these people will vote the next time around the will march their frozen asses to the polling place to vote for the party that wont shut off their utility's ,his true colors are showing RICH PEOPLE DON'T CARE AND NEVER WILL CARE ABOUT THE POOR .And make no mistake Obama is RICH .
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Post by C.O. on Feb 24, 2011 13:35:22 GMT -5
Typical neo conservative...bitch that the government needs to cut spending and downsize, but when something gets cut, bitch about how cruel and inhumaine the government is for cutting whatever it is that they cut. Soo...if whe shouldn't cut paying for utilities, what exactly SHOULD we cut?? And if are willing to pay to keep people warm, why not pay for their care when they have a heart attack??? If i had to choose between the governmant creating heat for my cold self and creating insulin for my diabetic self (hypothetically speaking), I'd be happy with building a fire and having the government pay for my insulin. I'm just saying that this will all spill over and it's about to get ugly. That is, of course, unless a leader, an actual leader, steps to the front. Yeah... We're fucked. Show me a leader that WOUDLNT have us on the brink of civil war...and I'll show you the anti Christ. Our country has been devided since the civil war. EVERY president we have had about half the people have loved them and half want them impeached before they even take office. They call Lincoln one of the best presidents, he did the worse thing to this counrty that coulda been possible been done, put it back together! He shoulda just left it devided, signed a treaty allownig all conservatives to migrate to the south and liberals to the north and just left it devided. The small percentage of us normal people coulda just annexed Maryland or something.
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